I don't have Windows 8 or Windows 10, have heard some back things about Windows 10 and my wife has Windows 8 and it is a nightmare for her. She had Windows 7, but the computer she bought has Windows 8, and today she even got locked out of her computer. She called Microsoft and they send her a password, but it wasn't accepted. I had never heard of anyone getting locked out of their own computer, think that is ridiculous. Now, she will have call them again and wait another 4 hours for a message. Thanks for the info about ObjectDesktop. I am subscribed and will try and see if that serial number will work. I appreciate you taking the time to reply and to help me. I am every so grateful. Like I said I have icons outside of my Fenses and they won't go into one when I try and move them. Never had that problem before, until I installed the Fenses 2.2 God bless you Redneck Dude. Actually, I'm a redneck too. Later.