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LordKosc presents... Lost EDEN! Beta 3 , 2vs2 map!

2v2 game, the race for eden begins....

September 22, 2007 2:01:07 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
My first 2v2 map for Beta 3, more will come as time permits and suggestions come in... Give me feedback!

FYI all players start with 4000 credits, 2000 metal, and 1500 crystal, this has made the usually slow start of the game SUPER fast... Eden is at the other end of this system, it a fully upgraded Terran Home Planet, who ever claims it first will probably win the game? Maybe... Maybe not...

This photo is of the map layout, the map has 2-3 tweaks (plant position, phase lane layout) to it since I took the picture, it is around 95% accurate!


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Install instructions:
Download the map (it's called Lost Eden.galaxy) and put it in the galaxy folder in your sins of a solar empire folder (C:\Games\Stardock\Sins of a Solar Empire\Galaxy).

****** REMEMBER all players must have this map installed to be able to play it! ************

Have fun, let me know what you'd be interested in for my next map... I'll keep them 1vs1 or 2vs2 for now... They take awhile to make!
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lordkosc
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Reply #1 September 22, 2007 3:21:20 AM
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looks really cool, i like the idea.
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Reply #2 September 22, 2007 5:21:00 AM
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reminds me of master of orion, where by theres one planet in the middle and once you defeat the guardian you get the planet and all the tech of the orions and a new ship.

hmm wonder if you can make something like that.

super unique ship that gaurds it and takes whole fleet of caps to kill, but once it dies the player gets the planet immediatly and many bonuses.
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Reply #3 September 22, 2007 7:12:04 AM
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hey! you did it kosc, nice!


so where were you missing a laneline?
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Reply #4 September 22, 2007 9:22:07 AM
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Nice map LordKosc.

The map is pretty balanced, since it's mostly a mirrored map.

It even works with the AI.

Only problem is (which hasn't much to do with the map), that the AI loves to battle in the plasma cloud between the two Terran planets. Unfortunately it also loves to use Sova carriers there (which are useless in plasma clouds) thus really wasting lot's of money.

Eden is at the other end of this system, it a fully upgraded Terran Home Planet


Eden is very useless right now. It's 7 jumps away from your starting planet, thus only having 15% allegiance. Also it's not upgraded at all. This setting in the .galaxy file doesn't seem to work.
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Reply #5 September 22, 2007 12:02:08 PM
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Eden is very useless right now. It's 7 jumps away from your starting planet, thus only having 15% allegiance. Also it's not upgraded at all. This setting in the .galaxy file doesn't seem to work.


Hmmm that is weird... Not sure why the settings don't work for the planet. You might have to move your capital to gain benefit from it.

I always forget about allegiance...

The two starting teammates used to be connected to each other via a phase lane, but even though it was coded that team mates start is set positions, once every 4-5 games you started next to your enemy! Lol...

Also the fact that the AI uses fighters at that plasma cloud is the AI's problem not mine ... Also there is a benefit to moving your capital to either the ICE or Volcanic planet once you do get to Eden , as it balances loyalty then...
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Reply #6 September 22, 2007 1:34:09 PM
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How are the teams distributed? Seems a bit unfair if two players have direct access to the desert planets, while the other two only have roids.
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Reply #7 September 22, 2007 2:05:46 PM
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For some reason the game likes to occasionally put a member of each team on one side and a member of each team on the other side, thus allowing 1 team access to both desert planets. Not sure why this happens as the CODE does look correct...

playerCount 4

player
designName ""
playerId 0
teamIndex 0
startingCredits 4000
startingMetal 2000
startingCrystal 1500
overrideRaceName ""

player
designName ""
playerId 1
teamIndex 0
startingCredits 4000
startingMetal 2000
startingCrystal 1500
overrideRaceName ""

player
designName ""
playerId 2
teamIndex 1
startingCredits 4000
startingMetal 2000
startingCrystal 1500
overrideRaceName ""

player
designName ""
playerId 3
teamIndex 1
startingCredits 4000
startingMetal 2000
startingCrystal 1500
overrideRaceName ""
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Reply #8 September 22, 2007 4:28:38 PM
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a question: i'm not allowed to create any games like this because I'm without "sufficient admin clearence to save this file here" (galaxy file)

what? how do I fix that? (I'm running as admin)

anyway I tried to save in documents and then move the file, but that didnt work.
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Reply #9 September 22, 2007 5:45:14 PM
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If you're using Vista, you need to change the security permissions on the folder in question. Vista doesn't allow programs to write files outside of certain areas (which is also why save games, etc. have to go in a specific place on the C: drive).
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Reply #10 September 22, 2007 6:12:45 PM
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vista is such a pain. does too much protecting people from themselves.
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Reply #11 September 22, 2007 6:14:57 PM
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Very nice Kosc.
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Reply #12 September 23, 2007 6:03:55 AM
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Did you set up the Planets with the right Team ID?


Ah, by the way, do we get a Map Creating Tool after or with release... maybe befor release
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Reply #13 September 23, 2007 9:38:23 AM
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we get the modding tools after release
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Reply #14 September 23, 2007 10:22:45 AM
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Good to read, i wouldnt like to build up a System, like lordkosc only, by only writing some stuff under VS into a file...
I like it visual, like girls with BIG Boobs, there you get a visual feedback
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Reply #15 September 23, 2007 4:10:20 PM
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Did you set up the Planets with the right Team ID?


He did.

The problem is, it looks like the game assigns team ids quite randomly to the players, so that no set outcome is guaranteed.

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Reply #16 September 23, 2007 7:58:33 PM
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Did you set up the Planets with the right Team ID?


He did.

The problem is, it looks like the game assigns team ids quite randomly to the players, so that no set outcome is guaranteed.




Correct! And there is nothing I can do to change that other than making maps more 4 player FFA...
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Reply #17 September 24, 2007 12:57:54 PM
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Correct! And there is nothing I can do to change that other than making maps more 4 player FFA...


Just curious, did you set teams to locked when you tried it? That may make a difference in the id assignments.
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Reply #18 September 24, 2007 2:26:51 PM
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Correct! And there is nothing I can do to change that other than making maps more 4 player FFA...


Just curious, did you set teams to locked when you tried it? That may make a difference in the id assignments.




Tried locked and unlocked, didn't seem to make a difference...
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Reply #19 September 24, 2007 4:19:54 PM
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Looking good Kosc Sorry to hear about the team assignment woes. Seems like Van isnt the only one that is having trouble with that.

Ill check the map out later, and update post (just got home from work trip).
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Reply #20 September 24, 2007 4:36:03 PM
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I loaded you map several times, locked teams seems to start at the right pos.
undlocked teams doesent.

But I could have been lucky
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Reply #21 October 11, 2007 7:46:07 PM
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I realized if you modify the gameplay constants file to allow for planets more than 7 jumps from your home world to offer 100% allegiance that this map will work as I intended!

If anyone needs the modified file I can make one, else its super easy to edit.
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Reply #22 October 11, 2007 9:24:41 PM
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until someone moves their homeworld...
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Reply #23 October 11, 2007 9:30:34 PM
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Reply #24 October 11, 2007 10:03:57 PM
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wont that completely ruin other maps?
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Reply #25 October 11, 2007 10:10:04 PM
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wont that completely ruin other maps?


yes it will

it would have to be modified for this map only and changed back if you wanted to play a different map...
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