enigmagnetic

enigmagnetic

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

"Here's a question. What if we could genetically modify human embryos or physically modify them so that they wouldn't have "conciousness", or feel pain? WHat if we could basically grow "vegetable" humans in a lab for organ harvesting?" Let's stick with anything that can't survive outside of the womb for any longer than a week, or moreso the cellular level. Anything that doesn't have it's own organs. We wouldn't be harvesting fetuses for their organs just transforming cells into them,

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

"Please, for the love of God, show me where I called you a liberal." I never said you did call me a liberal, I said "I think when you said "you guys" you meant to call me a liberal". That doesn't say you said it but that you meant it which are not synonyms oh God this is silly. Ok I apologize. "He is saying in terms of life and the respect thereof, there's no difference between an embryo and a fetus. " Well, his name is Dr.

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

"Because three times now you a have accused me of talking about a fetus:" Oh, oops sorry, I meant for it to be read by Dr. Guy as I stated in my last post. It's just hard to tell you two apart, you almost seem like the same person. Anyways, I did state it was my fault for not being specific.

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Reply to Christian in mental hospital over Islam switch in Politics JoeUser Forums

"How can you say liberals want to defend any religion when they go out of their way to attack Christianity" No they go out of their way to prevent Christians from imposing Christian ideals on others who are not Christian, hence they want to protect other religions. It is because you are Christian you have taken it personal.

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

"You missed on that one BADLY, enigmatic...a "fetus" is BORN at about 39 weeks." Damn, sorry I'm still in school. I'm only pre-med after all. "Or maybe you meant to say that and believe that anything that hasn't poked its head out of the birth canal is fair game?" How about narrowing it down to anything that has human brain waves. That is my problem though, that I'm a little more disconnected that the average Joe. I allow scientific and empirical research to contr

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Well, then, you guys need to start winning elections, huh? What you guys? Who are these you guys? How do you know I don't vote Republican? What, does being a conservative mean you have to feel exactly the same way as every other conservative? Sorry I'm not cut out of a mold here. A fetus is not form

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

I'm not saying we should do it because other nations are, but more so because we have been technologically superior for the last century and to start losing that for the wrong reasons will erode what made this last century the American century. I mean we are losing scientists that are going over seas becasue they feel stifled over here. It has nothing to do with the fact we have to follow them, only merely my wish for the U.S. to remain on top. I always said they were opinions I gave. "when

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

So you deny that other nations are not already ahead of us in this research? Have you been reading the news about the South Korean's, The British, and even the French. It's going to happen whether you like it or not. It's crazy how you take it to extremity of comparing me to Hitler for wanting stem cell research. It shows how close minded you are on the subject that you have to take someone as bad as Hitler and pair it with anyone who wants these t

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Reply to Christian in mental hospital over Islam switch in Politics JoeUser Forums

"And this is the religion liberals want to defend." I think liberals want to defend any religion. It's a matter of acceptance and tolerance. Now when ANY individual commits a crime against another, or making someone do something against their will for instance, then it should be that "individual" who should be punished not a whole religion. I mean not all Muslims are evil incarnate. Of course this would be in an ideal world.

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

If you decide that your non-religious beliefs are pre-eminent, and only non-religious people can make decisions based upon their beliefs, Actually, I believe in God. Here's the tough part though, the ancients and man throughout time as religion flourished, had no idea or even anticipated the eventual

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Your beliefs aren't any more valid than mine, thanks. If you decide that your non-religious beliefs are pre-eminent, and only non-religious people can make decisions based upon their beliefs, you are as much a "belief" bigot as anyone else. Well, although I wasn't talking to you, you're right my belief

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Do you know why they call them embryonic stem cells? Maybe because they come from embryos not fetuses. How about you do some research on how they actually work and then comment. That's the problem with a lot of people in this country, they rely on heresy and what their pastor, priest, or religious leader tells them as absolute without actually reading from a scientific source. Last time I checked, people where declared witches because of religious reasons which is why stem cell resea

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

How do you know? Even Doctors dont know. Have you ever seen Silent Scream? It is the first step down a very slippery slope to take the weakest and most defenseless of us and use them for supposed research. How do I know, well first off stem cells don't have brains, or hearts, or nerve cells for crying out loud (no pun intended)... If

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Nazi Germany used Jews and other undesirables to greatly further medical knowledge. Did the ends justify the means? That's like apples and oranges, stem cells aren't fully grown people, they don't feel pain. In fact it heavily depends on personal ideals on whether we are even destroying life in the f

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Reply to Should Pres. Bush veto stem cell bill? What would you do? in Politics JoeUser Forums

I don't understand why this President is still trying to appease the Christian right wing. He's a lame duck, I don't get it. If I were him I wouldn't veto it because I would care about the legacy I leave behind, and how I look 30 years after I'm done. I mean what are we in the dark ages, where because of one religions ideals we set back the ability to cure diseases, rebuild the human body, and prolong are lives. I mean wtf.

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