URGENT :STARDOCK PLEASE NOTE : SECURITY

Ive been playing with the new beta, i just tried to load a saved game, loaded to 100% then CTD, tried the auto save, same. It hasnt happened all afternoon, so i thought i will 'zip' it up and send it to CariElf, i just looked at the save file in a text editor, my Serial number is bang in the middlle for all to see, is this correct? I dont mind sending things to CariElf, but i know that once the expansion is released there are going to be lots of save files being passed about.

Thanks
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Ive been playing with the new beta, i just tried to load a saved game, loaded to 100% then CTD, tried the auto save, same. It hasnt happened all afternoon, so i thought i will 'zip' it up and send it to CariElf, i just looked at the save file in a text editor, my Serial number is bang in the middlle for all to see, is this correct? I dont mind sending things to CariElf, but i know that once the expansion is released there are going to be lots of save files being passed about.
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It's probably intentional, as it's been brought up before and hasn't been changed.

~SDC~
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Why would people pass around their saved games?

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Why would people pass around their saved games?
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For Succession games. The Jedi Republic does it and so does Realms Beyond.
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I thought that was part of the idea of the new expansion? the libary will be updated to accept scenarios / campaigns and i thought the saved games were on there as well?
Thanks for the prompt reply (there ought to be a best surported game of the year award as well, just realised who replied :))

Arcilte:

I just looked at the save in Textpad with wordwrap on, its only a few 'pages' down, not too sure if its there in 1.13 but it is in 1.49. I follow your escapades often, thats another reason i mentioned it, thanks for the tips and bits :)
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I know RB Xs out the serial number for their Succession games.
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I know RB Xs out the serial number for their Succession games.
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I had no idea that a serial number was given. If you can't trust people in your Empire who can you trust? :)
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Given how often some people swap empires...
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HAHAHA... thats true. LOL
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Darkspire

I've got the same problem... During the game many CTD's really strings the game out. Had to load the autosave game on many occassions.

Finally got fed up with it.. saved and now can't load from the saved game..

I did save a number of times and tested the loading of saved games as the previous beta didn't allow it..

It's all very well anouncing something as available, but this is not really up to standard.. very dissapointing.

I will be interested how you go.
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Why would people pass around their saved games?
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Besides succession games, for comparison games too. Or on these fora when people say "I'm stuck - can someone do better than I and how?"
It's been done quite a few times already.
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Jaws the Wayfarer:

I did the same as you, saved and tested and all worked. Im not a happy camper to be honest so i have gone back to the wind-up that is 1.13 :notsure: judging by the fact that during the sessions i tried the load save worked, i have to ask myself. Why did they work? everyone (i think) is used to the fact that on GC-1.13 and below when you click quit, depending on how long you have been playing, it would take a while to get back to desktop. My guess is there are local stored temp files / variables that are not being added to the save, hence they work whilst the same game is current. Sorry if im miffed, i was really enjoying GC. Then they added the 'expanding minors' in 1.12, and i just started to get the hang of things, and then they go and release 1.13 which was sposed to make things better but didnt and i just cant really get on with the way things 'lay out' in the current build, (check my scores and you will see what i mean). I got Drengin.net to say thanks to Stardock, i know they got a bad deal over GC going retail, i just hope AP is better when they release it , i wont mind having wasted two plus months on my subscription before i can even have a game with it, honest, (And no im not bothered with the other games on there, i bought it to say thanks, im not interested in the other bits, and yes i could have just bought the download / cd but that doesnt say thanks enough ;))
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I've got the same problem... During the game many CTD's really strings the game out. Had to load the autosave game on many occassions.Finally got fed up with it.. saved and now can't load from the saved game.. I did save a number of times and tested the loading of saved games as the previous beta didn't allow it..It's all very well anouncing something as available, but this is not really up to standard.. very dissapointing.I will be interested how you go.
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This is really strange, since I've been saving and loading many times, both in 1.13 and AP. With no problems so far.


I did the same as you, saved and tested and all worked. Im not a happy camper to be honest so i have gone back to the wind-up that is 1.13 judging by the fact that during the sessions i tried the load save worked, i have to ask myself. Why did they work? everyone (i think) is used to the fact that on GC-1.13 and below when you click quit, depending on how long you have been playing, it would take a while to get back to desktop. My guess is there are local stored temp files / variables that are not being added to the save, hence they work whilst the same game is current. Sorry if im miffed, i was really enjoying GC. Then they added the 'expanding minors' in 1.12, and i just started to get the hang of things, and then they go and release 1.13 which was sposed to make things better but didnt and i just cant really get on with the way things 'lay out' in the current build, (check my scores and you will see what i mean). I got Drengin.net to say thanks to Stardock, i know they got a bad deal over GC going retail, i just hope AP is better when they release it , i wont mind having wasted two plus months on my subscription before i can even have a game with it, honest, (And no im not bothered with the other games on there, i bought it to say thanks, im not interested in the other bits, and yes i could have just bought the download / cd but that doesnt say thanks enough )
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Darkspire, in AP you can set a scenario with your own rules, one of the options is having, or not, minors agressively colonizing. I kind like these new minors (since 1.13), powerful enough to last to the end. The more people in the galaxy, the better :) .
For the moment there are only a couple of annoying bugs in AP (IMHO) : can't get Paladin (new ship) constructed, though that may be linked to an alignement not high enough (I'm waiting to raise my alignement and try building it again) ; and at the start of a new game all victory conditions, except military, are OFF, and I would rather have alliance victory sometimes. The other ones, reported aren't that annoying, to me. I think the game will get a lot more interesting once the definitive version of AP is out.




~SDC~
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Nastavnik

When you've been playing for 4 hours and now can't load teh game taht you've saved.. that's pretty annoying, especially when on 1.13 I would have finished the game in under 3 hours...

I never tried building Paladins, but they didn't show up,nor did the Vampires when i selcted them in the build screen.. All in all its been very frustrating, have to agree with Darkspire's feeling of being seriously miffed.
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Darkspire, in AP you can set a scenario with your own rules, one of the options is having, or not, minors agressively colonizing.
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Yes but you cant submit a score so i was led to believe.

When you've been playing for 4 hours and now can't load teh game taht you've saved.. that's pretty annoying, especially when on 1.13 I would have finished the game in under 3 hours...
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Thats my feelings in a nutshell, hence im back to 1.13, ill wait until the next build see what its like then.
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When you've been playing for 4 hours and now can't load teh game taht you've saved.. that's pretty annoying,
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I realize that. And I do agree with you, it can be annoying: I couldn't reload a game I started under the previous beta, which was quite irritating. What I said is strange is that you cannot reaload your games, since I still can reload mine. Maybe it is just a corrupt save? Or it has to do with the game's options (I'm playing a small galaxy to try the beta). I just said what I said because ---that problem excepted--- the game is pretty enjoyable.
Is it just one saved game or you cannot reloas any of your saves? I'm asking because if it is some general problem that may appear at some point, for everyone under certain circonstances, then I'll limit myself to playing small galaxies, to avoid loosing all the work that is associated with medium & bigger galaxies.

In spite of all that (and given that it still is a beta) I like the new look of the galaxy, with the new faces. And I am a slow player, so I guess if I have a CTD is not all that much of lost work. (I've yet to get to mid-game within 3 hours...)

~SDC~
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Yes but you cant submit a score so i was led to believe.
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I don't know yet: because of the compulsory militay victory, my game is dragging a little. It seems to me that I saw some people had submitted games to the metaverse under 1.49. I don't know for the scenarios though.

hence im back to 1.13
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I can understand that: that's what I did with the first build. Now,I've been playing two games simultanously, one in each, to have a fall back position in case of irrecuparable bug (like in the first build: 3-4h of game, and a save before an attack in order to dinner. After diner, no reload :sniff!: )
~SDC~
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Is it just one saved game or you cannot reloas any of your saves?
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The Auto save (every three turns), the previous auto save and a manual save, all worked fine , loaded from in game, i then quit to do other things , turned PC off. Came back midnight+ last night and none of them would work. Hence i feel it has something to do with local stored files, like the 'dissapearing ship bug' that CariElf has fixed, it never happened to me. i presume the same is happening here
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Is it just one saved game or you cannot reloas any of your saves? I'm asking because if it is some general problem that may appear at some point, for everyone under certain circonstances, then I'll limit myself to playing small galaxies, to avoid loosing all the work that is associated with medium & bigger galaxies.
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I don't do incremental saves just overwrite the last time I saved. I am playing Gig/Obscene/Rare and am in the mopping up phases, so its particularly frustrating not to be able to complete it.

The only save that does load is the "New saved game" that I played with to test the loading feature.. I really don't want to go back to that and start again.


The Auto save (every three turns), the previous auto save and a manual save, all worked fine , loaded from in game, i then quit to do other things , turned PC off.
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Yep exactly the same.. It was fine whilst I was "in game", only when I had logged off from the game and came back to it did the reload problem occur.
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Yep exactly the same.. It was fine whilst I was "in game", only when I had logged off from the game and came back to it did the reload problem occur.
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I just checked all three saves, same result, CTD.
I had another save from another game about 10+ years in to the game, not at the start, that loads ok. I will put them all into a zip and send them to CariElf when she turns up. CariElf will fix it :D
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I don't do incremental saves just overwrite the last time I saved. I am playing Gig/Obscene/Rare and am in the mopping up phases, so its particularly frustrating not to be able to complete it.
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I get your point :notsure:

I just tried my autosaved games --2autosaves and my last save-- (set to every 2 turns). It still loads. I'll set it to three, and give it a try. Maybe we can help Carielf limit the possibilities :)

~SDC~
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Forward the saved game to Cari and she can locate the problem. If it works fine on her system then you know it's your game files and not the save,

paul.

~SDC~
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Forward the saved game to Cari and she can locate the problem. If it works fine on her system then you know it's your game files and not the save
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Which game files? if i have four save 'game files' three of which CTD and a fourth that doesnt, then the problem is with the beta not with any other files.
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Forward the saved game to Cari and she can locate the problem. If it works fine on her system then you know it's your game files and not the save
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Which game files? if i have four save 'game files' three of which CTD and a fourth that doesnt, then the problem is with the beta not with any other files.
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I have perhaps missed something but I have understood the post you are responding to as : Forward the saved games that cause CTD to help Cari to find the bug in the beta.
But I could be wrong.
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Yes you have as did the person i quoted :D

CariElf has the files now , so im off to bed :) have to be at work in four hours , its a good job i dont need sleep :D