New Battlestar Galactica delivers on its promise to be crap

How to take a legendary show and wreck it

Well that sucked.

Remaking Battlestar Galactica was always a risky proposition under ideal circumstances. But these circumstances weren't ideal due to a series of seemingly arbitrary changes that eliminated a lot of the good will of the original fans.

By arbitrary I mean making Star Buck a girl. Making Boomer a girl. Hey, if you want to have girl power, put in new characters. The biggest arbitrary and I believe ultimately disastrous change was making the Cylons creations of the humans.  Look, by the time we have that kind of technology, I think it's safe to say we'd be pretty damn careful about making them not turn on us. And if we're too stupid to keep that from happening then sign me up as the first Cylon slaveling. Good grief. It's been done.

But alienating the original series fans is only the beginning of this show's journey to drek. Let's list off the things that help make this show a fraction of what it might have been...

  1. Terrible directing. The camera work is awful.
  2. Unlikeable characters.  Star buck in the original was a funny and charming character. The new one is a bitch. Apollo was a good hearted soul. The new one is a spoiled kid. Boomer was a confident solid figure. The new boomer (now a girl) is just weak.
  3. Ruining the Cylons. Whether it be their ugly ships or their change of the infamous red signal light sound effect zipping back and forth (except on the ships) the Cylons suck. But having human like Cylons really takes the cake. Human enough that one could have sex with one and not know it? Think about that when you watch it. The Cylons apparently have technology to essentially create human beings and yet they're firing missiles. MISSILES.
  4. Bad science. The new show's creators bragged about how they wanted to be more realistic. The problem is that when you do that, you can't just pick and choose. This is especially bad when the parts where they attempted to be "realistic" make the combat scenes far less enjoyable.  For example, gone are the great dog fights because they wanted to have the "asteroids arcade game" type affect where little thrusters have to be fired to maneuver a ship. They also pick and choose which sounds we get to hear in space. This nonsense that there's no sound in space is foolish because it all depends on your perspective and your definition of what is "sound".  A whole article could be dedicated to that but let's bear in mind that piddly things like no sound in space (so battles are largely soundless and thus boring) are chosen while ignoring that we have ships traveling through interstellar space seemingly beyond the speed of light using rockets (next week we get to see "Hyperlight" apparently).
  5. Arbitrary choices of bad science.  So when there's an opportunity to make use of science to explain a bad special effect or a boring action sequence, they take it. But bear in mind, they have artificial gravity under control apparently. And the thing about that is, once you have artificial gravity, you might as well just toss out feeling obligated to put micro thrusters on ships for maneuvering. You can just channel gravity and move ships in precision dog fighting in space just fine. At least it makes things interesting.
  6. The story was incredibly plodding in pacing while jumpy. Bad editing?
  7. The ships are terribly ugly. One of the best things about the original was how massive a battlestar looked. The new one looks crummy. The ships are generally fairly crummy looking too. They should have stuck with the originals rather than making them look so video-game-ish.

All that said, if they had not called it Battlestar Galactica, I would say it's a decent, those mediocre sci-fi drama.  But when you have such excellent source material to work with, there's no excuse to have such drek as the result.

I would give this 2 stars out of 5.

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Reply #1 Top
I was hoping they would make this a prequel or side story of the original and not a re-hash. They would have so much more leeway with stories and new concepts.
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Well I liked the New Battlestar Galactica, at least it's better than watching B.S. sitcoms.
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I will agree that for the most part I'm pretty skeptical and have fallen into the habit of expecting the worse and seeing the worst. However, due to my memory of a horrible show that called itself Battlestar Galactica (I mean, it was bad even when it was in full swing), I couldn't expect much worse that the Final Fantasy movie (can't remember the title) that was pretty but was the worst cliche-fest ever made until that point. So I watched the 'new' BG I expected to waste my time.

I won't say I was pleasantly surprised, but I will state that it was better than I expected. Aesthetics aren't everything, and to be honest if they'd pretty'd everything up to current CG standards and made everything look good to popular sci-fi graphics I would have been put off. Rather than pretend the old models didn't exist, they cleaned them up and gave a legitimate reason for it. I don't mean that it's excuseable, but it's better than changing everything and giving no explanation for it.

One thing I've come to understand that almost any storyline done on tv (and on screen these days) has been done, and semi predictable is better than completely so. Some of the characters are formula, like lil' miss Starbuck manly-pants and petulant son-of-a-great-man Captain Lee. One thing I did like was the 'controversial' speach by the Commander that accepted blame for the Cylon war(s). He didn't cry, but almost did. I'm not a girly-girl, and chick flicks make me puke, so I know the line that's crossed when a man cries.

So, overall I will say that I'll be watching the next show. Why? It was better than I expected, there isn't much else on, and I'm in a boredom funk.
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We need an edit feature for posting comments. I hate it when I make mistakes and can't fix them!
Reply #5 Top
ah, the joys of never having seen the original series...


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it was entertaining. a few touches i liked:
where else do you see a story where a baby gets its neck snapped? freaky...
i was expecting the scientist guy to pull a switcheroo with the lottery number.

anyone want to go into conspiracy theories and shout-outs as to why they choose the president to be number 43 in line of succession, and 47 to be the winning number?

it did seem weird that madam president thought an unarmed passenger ship and a damaged fighter that wasn't even manned could take on two cylon fighters. but no worries: i saw the commercial where there was that scene where the president and admiral were talking but hasn't appeared yet. kinda cuts down on the suspense.

for those who "loved" matrix revolutions we get even more electro-magnetic pulse fun.
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its not the originals, but I actually kind of liked it Visuals were nice were a tv mini series (this isnt a movie). I wont miss the rest :)

Oldies always look so good through rose tinted glasses dont they though?
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I thought it sucked like Revolutions. They both seemed to be going for "girl power". I felt like it tried to make up for unlikable characters and bad directing with shots of sex and gratuitous violence (snapping the babies neck). Sure other shows don't have characters snapping babies necks. You know why? It is totally unneccessary.

How anyone could find the first 15 or 20 mins of the show entertaining, I will never know. It was slow, tried to introduce too many characters at once and the camera work at their card game was sickeningly dizzying. I never saw the original or just can't remember it but I can't imagine it being worse.

I overall thought it looked like an episode of one of the fading branches of Star Trek rather than a new, exciting show.
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I think that for the most part the poeple that didn't like the show expaected to much either because they saw the orginal and they remember it as better than it really was or they just exspect better from shows nowday. What the people who saw the original show and those that did is that wheather you lke or not the show was chessey. It was the first show of it's time after Star Wars came out and it was only on for one season because they blew the budget.

All in all I thought the first show was decent aside from the reuse of names which I tact up to marketing. Sad as it is momey is the bottom line and they are trying to appeal to as many people as they can. If any of you are Babaylon5 an you will remember the first season of that was bad to. Bad acting bad sets just plain bad but it turn out to be one of the best space operas ever as far as I'm concerned.
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I found the directing and special effects and pacing to be terrible. That has nothign to do with the original. It was just mediocre entertainment.
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Honestly, I turned it off after about thirty minutes in. I was bored with it and had better things to do with my time but honestly, compared to alot of the shows out there it wasn't terrible. Compared to the original, it was almost likeable. I dunno, maybe I'm spoiled by Farscape and Babylon 5 and the like, but you look at the ORIGINAL Battlestar Galactica and it was...terrible. Granted, they had slightly more interesting characters in the original (can you say cookie cutter in todays? and completely predicatable) but it wasn't bad. Wasn't good enough to take me away but I'll probably tune in if its at a better hour to watch (say afternoons on the weekend when nothing else is on?)
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I was only half paying attention to the show when it was on. Overall it was better than I thought it would be but it was still "B-grade" in a lot of ways (directing, characters, editing etcetera).

"Sure other shows don't have characters snapping babies necks. You know why? It is totally unneccessary."--JillUser

I thought that was one of the best parts of the show. It was an excellent way to foreshadow what was about to happen to the rest of humanity.

There is good material there, so I will be keeping an eye on the show to see if it matures.
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Part 2 was somewhat better but man, they need a new director. The pacing..is...so....slow... And so much sex stuff on regular TV. I mean, are these guys that pathetic? That clueless? We live in an age where we can quickly access real good porn fast if we want. Every kissing scene is just a waste of time.
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"Every kissing scene is just a waste of time."

Amen!
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Well, fortunately for me, I never get my hopes up that anything on TV is going to be great, hell I try not to expect much of anything from TV or movies any more. This helps to keep my very analytical and cynical personage from being dissappointed. So my two cents on B G then new years.
Some one just did not get the story line from the first B G correct. Some points of note.
Baby neck snapping: Not necessary, ultimately true, but she did not look too happy about having done it. (Character Development)
Kissing: I wish they would quit. (Shows human emotion)
Sex with a Cylon: How else to you explain the idiot genius' traitorous actions (Bah! Humbug!)
Cinematography: They did say they were trying to make it look more like a guy with a camera standing in the middle of the action (Hell give me clean and Crisp camera work)
Selective audio: They went over buget again and could not afford to buy all the sounds. (Maybe not but it sounds better than they are stupid)
Girl power: No offense but I wish that Girl Power, right along with all the other Power movements would just go the hell away. (For crying out loud we get it already, we know you can do just as much as everyone else. Now quit whinning and do it.)

I hope I covered everything. As for the orrigional show, it sucked and I loved every minuite of it. I intend to watch every sucky minuite of this one too....... :)

Hob G.
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I agree- the new BG blew chunks! Aside from making Starbuck female, and COL Ty a drunk, the story started off bad. How can this be taking place 40 years after the end of the first Cylon war and none of the characters seemed to look 40 years older?? Maybe I missed something in the beginning. The original had Adama as the old, wise, commander of a ship. 40 years later, he should be a senior citizen!!
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Timmy: IIRC, Adama was still just a fighter jock in the first Cylon war. The Viper (mk 2, I believe?) that they brought into the Galactica to be the highlight of that (sad little,) flyby during the decomissioning ceremony was Adama's own viper, after all.

That being said - I too grew up with the original Galactica series - and I too have many fond memories of it, no matter how hideous the show really is/was - and yet... I don't mind the new reimaging at all. In fact - I /liked/ it.

Starbuck was a typical representation of a hotshot young fighter jock. If Starbuck had been a guy, not a single person would have probably batted a lash - but since they decided to make Starbuck a woman, people are suddenly finding it as an attempt at 'girl power' or some other ridiculousness. Isn't it time we grew up and moved beyond that?

Yup, I liked it. I don't care that they took many things from the original show and changed them around. WHY SHOULD I? It's creative license. Expecting something to remain 100% original to the, er, original is simply ludicrous.

It's really one of the best classic space-operas that TV or movie has managed to give us so far. Yes, it's full of cliche, but what of it? Good storytelling is -built- around cliche - and honestly, no matter /what/ they had done, there would have been a way to argue that it was full of cliches anyway.
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Draginol,
So what's wrong with missiles? Old school doesn't mean bad school. Use the right tool for the job. The technology available to the characters is not explained, we can only surmise based on our own assumptions of technological advance. Why, after 100 years of flight, do we not have flying cars? Because as cool as a flying car might be, wheels are more intuitive and practical. Missiles and bullets. Kinetic energy weapons? Particle beams? They need complex powersupplies and can't fire around a corner or over a hill. You can steer a missile. Ground artillery can lob a warhead over a hill and far away. Bullets use a cheap and proven powersource. Gotta use what works.

Artificial gravity? Who says it will fit in a viper?

Sound in space? I thought it was a nice change. Sure, "soft whoosh" is no more real than "f*****g ZOOM!" in space, but it gave the battles a different feel that was refreshing.

Cylons as "human"? I agree with you there. Shoulda stuck with the robots (actually, in the BG novel, Glen Larson said they were biological under the armor--the producers went with machines because you can shoot and kill all the machines you want, but even slimey lizards in armor have rights). I suppose the producers felt the need to create tension and suspicion (sleeping with the enemy, as it were). On the other hand, a war with machines starts up "unwelcome" discussions of sentience and existence. A show that provokes "thoughts"? EEEKK! Save me.

I thought the opening scene with the camera that gets knocked by debris was cute. An obvious bid for credibility. The director trying too hard to bridge the gulf between fantasy and reality. Better to just let the characters speak for themselves than to force the issue. The smash zooms and seeking cameras in space, straight out of sports TV coverage, also an attempt to bridge the gulf. All these things do is draw attention to themselves. It brings us out of the movie. It stands up and says: "Hey! here I am! I'm like, real, eh?" The original Star Trek created reality and real honest pathos despite sets seemingly made of cardboard. The unfortunate result of good writing and good acting (Shatner bashers, sit down! Compare Kirk and Shatner: They are two different people. Kirk is the quintessential dashing young hero. Shatner is...well, Shatner. If that isn't great acting, I don't know what is.)

The success of any show, is completely dependant on how much you care about the characters. Even the villians. It is one thing to like a character. It is also one thing to despise a character (notice I said "character"; like them or hate them, you must believe in them). It is another thing entirely to not care.

Some of the show was OK. There were many interesting moments, but all too many uninteresting ones. I would probably watch a few episodes if it were a series, but not many more.

But I wouldn't call it crap.
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Well, I caught about the last 15-20 minutes of the first half, and all the second (upgrading a RAID and incidental backup/restore will leave you time on your hands).

I think I'd buy the DVD of it - It wasn't the original BG (and I missed most of the first half-which is where Draginol apparently had his doubts of it).

OTOH, I *liked* the new Starbuck; thought Apollo was way too quiet and non-assertive; and am really interested in the Dr. Bargas (?) character and his flirtations with evil and the Cylons - I found myself *caring* what was going to happen to him, even though he's quite obviously responsible for the failure of the defenses...

If it went on to be a full-time show, I'd watch it, despite the negatives. There just isn't that much good stuff on (and the last good thing I found, 24, I couldn't make the time to keep up with).
Reply #19 Top
I loved the orginal seriies but anyone being objective one has to admit it was EXTREMELY shallow. The new serious is vastly deeper and if you have an opend mind you can see that it ROCKS. Why remake something and make it the same? That would be far more insulting to the original. Give credit where it's due you loser!
Reply #20 Top
Well I have to say I remember how much I like the old series, I mean I jumped at the chance to own the box set. Oh then I remembered I was not 6 or 7 anymore and I didn't have to ask my parents to stay up and watch it. I feel that memory of the old series was better then the show itself. I really liked the new version, and yes it ran slow in places. I feel it gave a lot more (possible depth) then just another wagon train remake. I will watch the new series no problem but it is conditional, No Triad outfits from the old series. There we go I am a happy.
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im 18 and have only seen several of the original series and let me tell u they sucked. i enjoy watching them sometimes but they were corny. come on there at war and everyone is all happy and merry. the new one is better because it shows what real humans would act like in a war situation. has far as all the kissing goes be real here if u nearly died wouldn't u find the nearest person whose opposite your sex and makeout i would. Starbuck and Boomer females big deal there are women pilots in the military today what a surprise there are women pilots in the future. and if im not mistaken there was like an entire squadron of female pilots in the original and no one bitched then. i hate space operas and making the new BSG more realistic is a definite improvment. if SciFi makes this into a real series i'll watch ever episode.
Reply #22 Top
Either you like it, or you hate it. That's human nature. ;)
"Give credit where it's due you loser!" - Hey Smither, your whole comment (which had some relevance) was completely tossed out the window by your last sentence. ;)
How can your opinion have any value now? Le sigh.


As for the BG series..it's hard to re-make the original and please everyone. Look at it this way, which generation will spend more time and money watching the new stuff? The younger generation. So if they don't cater to the 'original' series fans..I don't think it breaks too many hearts in the production office.

I could be wrong.
Reply #23 Top
The new BG was good for one thing: proving yet again that a mixed-gender military is the worst idea since "don't ask, don't tell." (yes, there were female "warriors" in the orignal, because they were desperately short of manpower). Oh, and it was total crap, too.
Reply #24 Top
Another reason I say it was total crap: The characters were universally unlikeable.

In the original, all of the characters were good guys. They were different in different ways but they were people that you rooted for.

In the new one, I couldn't help but think that the Cylons were just putting thise sad sacks out of their misery.
Reply #25 Top
What? Is this a syndicated show or something? I@have never even heard of it.

Oh well, my parents wouldn't let me watch the original series anyway. They made me watch "60 Minutes." How sad!

Have a Battlestar-Happy Day!