What do you do in this situation?

You are advent, 2 jumps away from 2 x TEC on either side, one who is LRM spaming and going right for you

What do you do in this situation to survive and not get killed:

 

5v5 Huge random single star map, You are Advent, you are 2 jumps away from 2x TECs on either side.  One is spamming LRMs and going right after you.  What do you do?

 

I tried to get Illum, but he had too many LRMs for me to over come and I didn't have the resources or the ability to build them fast enough to overcome him.  So I built a SB and sat and kept building ships b/c I couldnt get out and every battle I went into, I was losing more then he was and he was producing them faster then I could produce them.  I was hoping my allies would win their areas and then hit him and then I could join their fleets with my fleet, but my allies were hammered and eventually overcome.  They couldn't take my HW, but I couldn't do anything to help my allies so eventually my allies quit and left when they had large losses and it was apparent the game was over.

 

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Reply #1 Top

So you're Advent being doubled by TECs very close by on both sides.

If you don't get feed, you're bound to lose in a tier 0 battle for your homeworld against the two of them in the long run. And if they're both only two jumps away (maybe an asteroid in between?) that means they'll have fleets on your homeworld ASAP - if they're any good. If you're playing mediocre to semi-OK players, one strategy would be to SB up to protect your labs, frigate factories, and fleet. A starbase will hopefully give you the freedom to then research flak, and then Illuminators, and build up a good number of them - Illuminators in large numbers are almost unparalleled at shredding enemy fleets, regardless of enemy fleet composition. The trick is to not die before you reach that point - and having enough income to support a good number of Illuminators is also a serious problem. Hopefully you were able to get an out-of-the-way roid and a neutral or two. That's the best-case scenario and is still extremely questionable, and is likely to work only against the more noobish opponents.

The biggest threat is from Embargo. If one or both of the enemies attempts a true Sova rush, you'll probably be too crippled to build up enough Illuminators in time. Even if you do get feed, the slower ship building result of Embargo may prove to be too much. And if one enemy uses an Akkan instead, pray that they aren't smart enough to use Targeting Uplink + LRM to destroy your starbase from a safe distance.

If one of your enemies is not smart enough to rush and spam within the first 5 minutes, you have an opening to use tier 0 to fight off the other enemy and to then bring your fleet back in time to fight the other - and you really want to be able to build Illums by then. Without of a substantial advantage of some kind you'll probably die; feed is nearly essential. Building up to 40+ Disciples as quickly as you can may allow you to attack/pursue/destroy enemy capital ships with relative ease, which might result in the enemy retreating their fleet from your HW. It's doubtful but one possible option to consider. Remember that TEC have Ogrovs - you need a decent fleet by the time the enemies realize they can use Ogrovs.

That said, if either of your enemies are halfway decent, they'll both be attacking you very soon and you won't have the freedom to build up enough to survive and will have to evacuate.

A big part of this situation is when to realize that it's hopeless and that you have to relocate. If I were in your situation I would probably just build a Progen/Halcyon and get out of there without using money on defenses or a fleet.

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Oh, and if your allies can't manage to win their side of what would basically be a 4v3, the game is probably over anyway.

Reply #2 Top

You survived and held your home in the suicide spot.  It sounds like you did your job and were just on the losing team.

 

Reply #3 Top

Just hope they finally fix embargo. Being doubled by  2 sovas is just sick.

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Quoting DirtySanchezz, reply 2
You survived and held your home in the suicide spot.  It sounds like you did your job and were just on the losing team.

 
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No kidding...that's impressive in its own right!  I might add that fighter bay upgrades aren't a bad deal...those fighters are great against bombers, ogrovs or lrms...and if you keep them docked your enemy probably won't even think to bring flak