Of course they would; no offense KFC, but that's their mentality - any negative opinion of Christianity, any sort of desire to not have it in the government - is atheist's work, etc.
no offense taken but you are right. Christ said you are either for me or against me. That's all there is to it. Anti- means "against" or "in place of."
Are you tolerant of other people? Very little in my experience. Sorry, but you don't own morals.
sounds like you haven't met any Christians. You said your mother is a Christian. Does she do these things you're accusing Christians as doing? The Christians I know don't do these things. Do you know the diff between being tolerant of people and tolerating sin? We can separate the two. A Christian can love the sinner and not the sin. We are always to fight what is evil and wrong but we are always to love the sinner and treat them as a creation of God. Jesus always said "go and sin no more." He addressed sin when he saw it. We are not suppose to tolerate sin and as our laws are going in that direction, yes we are going to fight these laws on moral biblical grounds. It's the laws we're against, not the people. Know the difference.
Likewise, don't tell me that our founders wanted to make us a Christian nation when clearly their words, along with their subsequent actions prove otherwise. That's just wrong, and that's a lie in my book, along with factual misrepresentation. (I get worked up to no end with people misrepresenting facts.)
are you saying I'm misrepresenting the facts? What have you brought to the table? We have gads of evidence against what you are saying here and I supplied you with just a hint earlier. You don't have a leg to stand on here. It's taken since the 1960's to get rid of the Christian influence we've had in this nation since its inception and we're still at work de-Christianizing this country. The words on our money and the scriptures all over our national treasures and monuments and the prayer in our Senate is about all that's left right now. Soon that will be gone as well. You're getting worked up because deep down you know you're wrong and you cannot articulate it and that's what's making you angry. If you were right, you wouldn't be angry.
Yes, practice your faith - believe in your God. That's all well and good, but take the friggin' tree out of your eye before you go about castigating and suppressing others.
where did you get that saying? I'll tell you. From Christ himself.
Am I bitter? No, not really. Am I angry? Yes, very much so, because I am sick and tired of seeing good, nay, great people - honest, compassionate, charismatic, loving people -who happen to be atheist, agnostic, homosexual, or just plain different - get treated essentially like less of a human.
and you are asumming or judging the Christians as a group by saying they are doing this. So you need to take that log out of your eye. I'm going to tell you right now....if you call yourself a Christian and you treat some human being as less human than you're either NOT a Christian or a very very weak one; a baby Christian who knows no better. Christ said "the world will know you by your love you have for each other." He also said to "love and to good to your enemies."
See that's how Satan works. He puts pseudo Christians (tares) out there among the wheat and until the harvest many can't recognize what is what. Just like when I weed a garden before the vegetable plants get too big I don't know what is weed or what is going to be a vegtable plant. Don't fall for this trick.
If only we all could pull our heads out of our personal black hole - things may...may just start getting clearer. I consitantly hope for clarity, wisdom and intelligence. I believe those are the key to solving this problem.
and that sounds great in theory but it's not going to happen. The reason? Pride. That's what I'm trying to say....from a Christian perspective (genuine) it's all about being "other minded" not self-minded. For instance.....think about Adam and Eve. Everything was great; hunky dory until they sinned. Up until that point they didn't even recognize their own nakedness. Why? because their focus was not on themselves. It was on God. As soon as they sinned they looked within and at each other. Focus changed.
Only when our focus changes can we get out of that black hole you're speaking of. If we're not worshipping God, we are worshipping self...and Alderic you pretty much said this yourself earlier when you said you rely on your own intelligence and achievements. Right?
* I use the label Christian in a vague, in general sense because of the majority in the US and since we're talking about the US; It can be applied to any faith really.
from what I see and my experiences over the years, the majority are in Christian name only. The real deep down committed Christians are alot fewer than you think. Some are just political for political sake. Some are just Christian in name because of heritage or habit. Some for business reasons; how it looks etc. In every church I've ever been to, there's a much smaller remnant of true bible believing Christians. The rest are either lukewarm or cold all together.
