This type of statement is completely insulting, both to us posting in this thread and to the millions of people across the world who have been horribly misled[1].
Meh, then you understood it. Good.
The point of this thread is not to "educate the denizens of the internet" but to bounce ideas of a variety of people to help formulate both a better understanding of the issue as well as the various groundings for its argument.
Oh spare me. The majority of the posts were about how doomed we are. What exactly was anyone saying about 'solutions' until I actually pointed out that no one was talking about them. Indeed, people were just slamming solar and biofuel (and not unjustly) without offering up a damn alternative.
Yet, your posts do not seem to lend themselves to a person who is actually doing something to actually make the world a better place,
Right, because posts will make the world a better place. As opposed to getting a PhD in a relevant field and then working in that field.
but instead to someone who is actually discouraging natural and health dialogues in favor of a social/political ideology which may or may not be correct.
Again, until I pointed out that there was no dialogue, just a bunch of meaningless hand wringing driven by inaccurate understanding of the actual time frame for peak oil, the only things being said were 'we're screwed'. So stop pretending you're leading some asinine internet crusade to have a discussion to solve the issue of peak oil through dialogues with people who play the same game(s).
Calling individuals with a distinct point of view "Doom Sayers" does not prove your ideology,
I'm not trying to prove a damn thing. That's your problem, proving that the problem is as you say it is. And so I called a spade a spade, oh well.
nor does hypocritically requesting links and citations to facts which prove a statement when you have done nothing of the sort in any of your posts.
Again, because I'm not trying to prove anything. You are asking me to prove a negative, silly that. I'm asking you to base your claims in facts and evidence. Hey, maybe you're right, so just show it. Else... yeah, we're all just spouting crap on the internet.
Peak Oil is a serious issue, whether the solution is readily available or not. It is a topic that deserves discussion and serious consideration from all people. Whether you agree with the analysis or not, attacking individuals directly is worse than "just spouting off random garbage" as you are doing absolutely nothing of value.
Oh hell. It does not deserve discussion from all people. It deserves discussion from people who have some basis for understanding it. You want my 5 year old to discuss it? And disucssion... not just saying 'we're screwed'. Yeah, we may be, but just saying it isn't discussion, it's pointless. I'm not attacking individuals either. I'm attacking empty rhetoric. If happen to spew some then you may feel attacked. Educate your self and it won't be an issue. Because even if I disagree with your view at least you'll have used some facts or evidence to support it.
Is that too difficult to understand? Pot meet kettle? Nothing of value in this thread whatsoever, I would be pressed to agree with you. Problem is, I'm not trying to make value claims, I'm trying to get you to stop being lazy and actually do some work. Real work, not this 'having a discussion on the internet in a game forum' crap. Really I wouldn't even bother with this thread at all if not for the number of posts from people just bitching about how bad everything is, or is going to be. And when someone offers an alternative they get shouted down, you know, because we're screwed anyway, and you just know that this time we can't dig ourselves out of the hole. That's biting analysis, based on nothing but some useless Gorian propaganda I would imagine.
If I'm wrong then prove me wrong.
And yet, poverty is on the rise, war is on the rise, we now have the X-39B is it? Autonomous mini-space shuttle that was siezed from NASA by the Air Force. It can stay in space, without humans, for 9 months.
Apparantly your ability to reason and argue is suspect. Very much so. Why would you think that I, one who obviouly abhors war, would think that MY solution to all the World's problems would be WW3?
Explain yourself.
And keep heroically solving the world's problems. Get over yourself buddy.
War is on the rise? Compared to when? Yesterday? Last year? A decade ago? A century ago? Poverty is on the rise? Again, compared to when? Compared to what? Oh sure, poverty is an issue, one which needs to be dealt with, and population control is one way to do it. So you say, my question is how? It's not really a practical solution, that's the point. And if it's a necessary solution? How are you going to do it? Just words from you, words with no sense behind them. Problems need solutions, solutions need people to work on them. What part of the process are you? Seems you're just another nobody who can tell everyone what's wrong with everything, but can't do a damn thing to help fix or change it. No? Prove me wrong.
I work in a field of chemisty related to nuclear power. We work to improve the safety and yield of fuels. It's not going to solve the worlds problems, but at least it's something (and directly related to the original point of this thread, energy consumption). What do you do again? Whine on internet forums? Hows that helping anything? Well that's not fair, you're helping to entertain me I suppose.
I back kenata here. Shadowtongue your being illogical and quite frankly insulting in what seems to me to be a juvenile attempt to force your opinion on others by denouncing them and yelling very loudly. I suggest you take a step back and analyze why you are acting that way, because it's obviously not an attempt at logical argument.
Thank you for your concern. It is misplaced, but I appreciate it none the less.
