yes, the 'ownerisrace' SHould have had 'Qucikstart' & 'NormalStart',

but I click continue each time it happens, finish the map, then save it,

and open the galaxy in eithernotepad or notepad++ and search & replace the 'invalid' with 'OwnerIsRaceNormalStart' and add the race name at the end of the line, then select all the lines from the line just altered to the end of the spawning template and copy/paste after the just modified template and in the extra bit I just pasted I change the 'NormalStart' with 'QuickStart'  and if it is for a player start I add the extra ships/structures that I want for the player's quickstart, and repeat for each of the race wanted templates

and yes it is more frustrating than the older versions, but it works(sort of)

harpo