The Hawk Asks, Is Sins MP Dead? » Forum Post by BlackHawk141

Quoting lbgsloan,

You guys could, you know, play smaller games? Even with larger RTS communities, games over 3v3 are difficult to set up. Is there something wrong with 1v1 or 2v2, or is 5v5 to only way you guys know how to play Sins anymore? A lot of balance issues disappear when players can't neglect their economy and mindlessly rush. I've looked online at various times and see 3-4 people in the lobby, but they complain 'there aren't enough people to play' and leave. What? 4 people aren't enough to play a RTS?

There is more skill involved in a 1v1 or 2v2 in any RTS, this is a fact. If the 'top players' only play huge team games, I have some bad news about the supposed skill level of the top players.

We like to play large gamese cause they let use all the juicy stuff a late game can offer ( my favourite, kosturas)

We cant use full potential in 3v3 and 2v2 is rather short game of 1-2 battles. Thats y.

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Quoting Qu4r,

reply 23

Cry me a river Grey.

Smurfing was here before i started to play online, yet somehaw game survived smurfing for 1,5 year.

I know amy arguments wont change your "blame DT policy" but i think its time to let go.

You never got it Quar. So let me try to spell it out simply. It was NOT JUST SMURFING that ruined SINS for me. Smurfing was there from the beginning, it was annoying, but the greatness of the game was still worth it-even with balance issues and mini-dumps.

Ready for what ruined SINS for me and others... it was SMURF STACKING that ruined SINS for me and others. WE couldn't get a fair game anymore, no matter what policy WE tried.

Without a chance for fair game it was no longer a fun game.

You can't deny that you, some in your clan, and others outside DT SMURF STACKED. And you can't deny that you, some in your clan, and others were even proud of it. We can still see boasting attitudes about it throughout the forums.

That attitude ruined SINS for me and others.

I wonder though, who's left for you to smurf stack against? Is it fun for you now? Was it worth it-your stats and pride VS the community and its players?

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since you had the game from the beginning why cant you beat smurfs????

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It's a team game.

Stacked skilled smurf team VS Whoever was left. Be it-new players old players skilled players noob players. Who's going to win? The one's that had the hidden advantage. They abused and exploited multiple accounts multiple times.

The smurf stackers, would do anything to win-exploiting the biggest exploit there was. I played for fun and smurf exploiters sucked the fun right out of SINS.

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Woow listen to yourself , Z00MERS. " Not just smurfing , smurf stacking , Smurf stacked , abuse , exploit.

Smurfs must have kidnaped u , implanted and sexualy abused

And serioiusly , haw can u say al this if u kicked everyone that u dont know from your games for at least 3 months , and u almost didnt played a games that u didnt host.

As my memory serves me, your games was equaly stacked as every other, without chance for a fair game. famous waords " i stack and its smurfs fault"

The real problem in here was comunity become so small after diplo we couldnt sustain any games larger then 3v3 , and kickin wasnt an option. Lack od choice

Sweryd: Zoom couldnt decide for a year if he hate clans or he wants to join one. Withaout clan , without constant pressure, it took him much longer, to get to top-level. Actualy Diplo give him a nice boost, with no more bugged lums and higher income he become extrimely dangerous.

So yes he can beat every smurf in game, but insteed he prefere to cry and kick everyone that he dont know out of his game , that decresed playerbase even more

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that decresed playerbase even more

That, along with other things. Who knows what all contributed, but the fact is that the multiplayer community has undergone a lot of player churn recently, and although it take longer to get games, the new players seem to have a refreshing enthusiasm. Kind of nice to see actually.

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Its useless trying to convince quar. He has been drinking the DT/smurf koolaid for too long.

[_]-Greyfox

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You mean coolaid right? Too cool to aid anymore. He caught the smurf sickness and the disease changed him to the jerk/liar he is today.

Just so the record is straight. who else heard me EVER say "I stack and its smurfs fault"?

Anyone ever hear that? No? Didn't think so.

I HOSTED because of smurfs (20+ wins, remember). I KICKED because of smurfs ( I'm sure Quar's smurf got kicked from many of games that Quar would have been welcomed in).

In fact my last few weeks of playing: (please post if you are still around to remember me doing this)

I would host a 20 + win game, and when it filled I would ask.

"Vote-tvb, 12121212, or pug." People would vote, and we would play what MOST wanted. (Good games happened.)

How could I honestly stack that? Vote for the 9 other players

That's ridiculous. Yet, it is not as ridiculous as a player like Quar being kicked from those same 20 + win games because he had too much pride (or maybe too little pride) to bring his main account.

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Hmm now when im telling u the ugly true im a lair......... drunk with DT coolaid..... go on keep offending , idc.

Maybe when i wanst able to join your games u did vote abut in that seldom times when somhow i managed to get to game with u or even hosted by u, u had a habit of proposing tvb or 1212 whatever was better for your team. I even left few times cause it was obvious stack.

But sure, whetever, its just mumbling of drunk guy who overdoosed DT coolaid.

See u around

PS definitly not in sc2

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Drinking the kool-aid is not a reference to getting drunk. To help enlighten you.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid

[_]-Greyfox

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Quoting Qu4r,

reply 34

I even left few times cause it was obvious stack.

See u around

You mean you don't like unfair game? You mean you left a game because it was unfair?

So did I. The game was SINS.

Did you leave those games you thought were stacked and join one that was smurf stacked in your favor? (IF 20 + wins and me asking "Vote-tvb 121212, or pug." is stacked.)

I hope to see you around too. I use Z00MERS in other online games I play.

PS I am also early passing on sc2.

PPS DOW 1 (not 2 because it was click fest) is making me happy now.

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