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P5yy
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Things get built too fast in "Fast" Mode , online.

Pls read before you LOL my thread title

February 11, 2009 3:07:56 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

Ever suprised attacked someone , only for them to build up fast enough to get repair bays up , or by the time you have killed one unit of theirs , they have spammed another dozen from their reactive built shipyard.

Kinda sucks , and the game has a low suprise-attack reward.

This is off course with "Fast" Build Setting. But you might aswell call it "Default" , because almost every online host just sticks everything on "fast" for ease sake , because other settings like Econ , Research , Unit speed works on "fast".

I believe the best settings for multi games...

Econ : Fast

Build : Normal

Units : Fast

Research : Fast

Culture : Fast

I believe that for build speed , "normal" is very interesting. If you suprise attack someone , hes going to have a harder time getting structures up to react to it. If someone suprise attacks you , then you shouldnt just be able to spam up 4 repair bays or spam a fleet up,  and laugh at the fact that they really didnt gain any advantage to your initial lack of awareness.

Just thinking what other hosts think....

ps-(Icant host anymore since alloy)

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MindsEye
Join Date 05/2008
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Reply #1 February 11, 2009 4:45:35 PM
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I actually agree with this. You could be attacking with hc and they still only have lrf and before you can kill their roid they can build the labs and have them rolling out before u hit next planet.

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WHIPperSNAPper2008
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Reply #2 February 12, 2009 8:36:10 AM
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I think the game's fine as it is and that a change to its very delicate chemistry is liable to detract from it.

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sirphoenix
Join Date 03/2008
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Reply #3 February 12, 2009 9:09:36 AM
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if you play online vs. humans and you let the enemy build repair bays while you attack their world it's your fault.

with a few squadrons you will shoot down any constructor in seconds, no way they can build anything if you do it right.

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Astax
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Reply #4 February 12, 2009 3:52:14 PM
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I agree with sirphoenix here.  If you target the constructers than there is no problem.

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Hound
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Reply #5 February 12, 2009 5:00:48 PM
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Shooting the constructors won't stop existing Frigate factories from pumping out reinforcements at an amazing pace during a battle.

I agree that building ships that fast sort of dumbs down the game a little bit.

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Astax
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Reply #6 February 12, 2009 9:12:00 PM
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If you are fighting enemy in their backyard you will obviously be at a disadvantage.

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Hack78
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Reply #7 February 12, 2009 9:57:37 PM
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So target the factories BEFORE you hit the ships.... That's called tactics. Some might even go as far as to say it is common sense!!!

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Reply #8 February 12, 2009 10:17:18 PM
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HAck, you're a hack. This shouldn't be a spam spam game that rewards spam over strategy. 

Why should anyone be able to replace their losses almost as fast as they lose them? 

I'm putting my games build on normal now. 

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Hack78
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Reply #9 February 12, 2009 10:26:26 PM
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That is not a hack - just adapting to the current situation. Where is it said that they cannot have nanite tech that builds ships quickly assuming the resources are available???

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ArchNemesis
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Reply #10 February 14, 2009 12:11:13 PM
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i agree with hack stratagy and microing is wat makes u a good player.  a good stratagy is kill the fabricators thne the factories then the ships or if there is repair bay go after them too.  but to change the speed at which ships r built cause u cant micro right or u dont use a sound stratagy is rediculous.  honestly now wat good is feed if the person ur giving it too cant use it cause his ships wont build fast enough to make a difference, its like taking out an aspect of the game.  ne one who plays knows feed is giving when one of ur allies is in dire need usually before then most ppl do their own thing so if u cant build ur ships fast enough to use the feed then why even have the option to give res to ur allies.  no offense p5yy but this is a retarded post

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sirphoenix
Join Date 03/2008
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Reply #11 February 14, 2009 12:37:00 PM
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Quoting DorianGray7,
reply 8
HAck, you're a hack. This shouldn't be a spam spam game that rewards spam over strategy. 

Why should anyone be able to replace their losses almost as fast as they lose them? 

I'm putting my games build on normal now. 

 

if it takes you 20 seconds to kill 1 tiny frigate then your attacking fleet is just too weak!

in reality quickly spamming ships where you need them only helps if the attacker fleet is about the same size as yours or to keep the enemy busy while you're rescue-fleet is on the way.

otherwise you won't get an advantage of spamming frigates at the enemy which usually get shot down within seconds while doing almost no damage to him.

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Cpt_Siddy
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Reply #12 February 14, 2009 1:55:21 PM
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i laught at thing that is tying to kill me early on with 60hp/s repair rate from hoshiko/bays

 

so yes, it builds damn too fast for comfort.

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