If they put in a single player campaign then A) the budget would've had to been bigger (I'm guessing) and B ) Sins would've been delayed a long time. If a campaign was so easy to do, then why hasn't someone modded a complete one in yet?

I have to agree on everyone who is saying you're a bit overreacting.

You should not be complaining that IC/SD created the game with hardcodes as to prevent users from completly changing the game alltogether. If you want to do that, I agree that you are going to have to make your own game.

As for the expansion, it's a micro-expansion, it is supposed to add a few things that the developers thought of after creating sins. Sure, they could add more than what was promised in the expansion, being $9.99, but expansions for other games cost as much as the game itself. take for example, Age of Empire III. Each one of their FULL expansions cost exactly as much as the original, being that the expansions included different empires, different maps, and new campaigns. That was about it. Compared to that, Entrenchment is giving alot for a low price. I would like to see more for that price, but I believe it is enough to satisfy me, along with the promise of more to come for about the same price. If you want that much more from them, then i think you're expecting too much from IC/SD, and you should get 7ds. And if you wanted a ship builder as a part of sins, you're looking for either the Galactic Civilization series, or Spore. Saying that Sins is an "unfinished product" is like saying all games with expansions are "unfinished products"

and Linux...who the f**k cares!? IT'S LINUX! It's not even Mac! I would understand Mac users complaining, but i'm pretty sure on the box it says: "Games for Windows"...

They did not intend for their to be a campaign mode. If there is a campaign mode for the Galactic Civilization series, or the Sid Meier's Civilization series, then tell me. But sins does not look like the kind of game that would work with a campaign mode. It has a great storyline, though...

My point: If you want the greatest game ever, make it yourself and have people complain that your product is "Unfinished"

-Noob

Why would anyone spend the time or effort to develop the game for Linux?  Linux may have had about 1 1/3rd % of the market last year, and how many of those were interested in 4x games?  Maybe it has 5 or 6% of the market now. 

It would be akin to making voice overs in Swahili.  We are really departing from commercial reasonableness.  Your email might better be addressed to Santa Claus as these types of desires are really more up his alley.

The game clearly states it is for Windows.  Since the game functions so very well mechanically the point of mods is mainly cosmetic, unlike other games such as MOO3 where mods were required to simply play the game due to its unfinshed state. 

It appears most on the forum believe the game is a great value at its current price and welcome the expansion sets at their price.

It really sounds as if you are looking for a very different game from Sins, even asking for the entire game be rewritten to allow for your exact desires to be met.  Continued exposure to Sins is likely to only frustrate you more.  Perhaps another game will be released at some future date that will more exactly match up with what you are looking for.

i feel a flame war coming....

Sparda, cool down man i've seen posts like these turn into flame feuds quickly.....

Regarding hardcoding: i agree that it needs to be gone and i personally would happily pay again for a new version of sins, however i will not be buying Entrechment for a simple reason: starbases can be added in through modding so i dont see much point in spending 10 USD on it (although, it will probably be good nonetheless)

in regards to the game itself, i think SD did an awesome job, when it comes to SOASE i have nothing but good things to say (although i am a little torqued that i have to register the game first....thats somthing i rarely do just because im too lazy to register my games, only one i actually have registered is BF2 b/c i needed to register it in order to use the booster pack collection...and i  find the resource system a little annoying, but thats easily fixable through some coding tweaks)

-Jag

wow wow  there,   i think you do not have the right to make that statement,   you are saying becuase 99% uses windows u can leave the other 1% to hang

  and since linux us nearing the gazilion time's better then windows number i wouldnt be surprsied if alt of people actually use linux,   thank god sins is linux compatible,  nasty lil bugger that impule isnt,  weird  they didnt think of it actually... or.. did they??

And being able to run in WINE isn't the same as *nix compatible. 

I think we can end this now, if he has not understod the point by now he never will, but god i wish i had some of w/e he smokes

"You guys wanna get high?"

meh...all I have to say is meh...oh and "Lock/Delete Please"

It all really boils down to "Show me the money" 

"starbases can be added in through modding so i dont see much point in spending 10 USD on it (although, it will probably be good nonetheless)"

If you had any idea what kind of work and value we packed into this unpriced expansion you would realize how potentially insulting that could sound. Fortunately I am not going to take it that seriously. I can only assume you haven't read the full features list, you don't understand what each starbase can do, and you are cautiously under valuing the content you haven't seen so that you'll be that much more blown away when you DO purchase the expansion!

I think some of the concerns Sparda is bringing up are actually legitimate. The way he's dealing with it though is a "Us vs Them" mentality, when really it doesn't need to be. A lot of the stuff being asked by Sparda would actually improve sales, he just present it in a way that is a bit rude and immature.

Personally, I think he'd be much better off befriending the developers and devloping support from the community to show that a mini mod expansion would be worthwhile and beneficial to Ironclad, Stardock and the community as a whole.

If they took an approach like Never Winter Nights to one of the mini packs, I would really expect to see huge results. Imagine an add on that allows you to build an entire new faction of your own, plus scenarios and campaigns. An easy builder ship, planet, icon (lol) and building builder would be truly amazing. 

I've seen what a community can do when given the proper tools. Heck look how well the Sins modders have done so far! If you give the opportunity for expansion into the hands of thousands (maybe millions by the end of this christmas!) of customers, the amount of content and playability would skyrocket. This would provide some competition to the Sins developers, but if each expansion includes some more tools, then it would only work to increase sales.

Sparda,

I'd suggest changing your tone completely. You're much better off getting support from the community and petitioning for a third mod expansion that provides you with the tools needed to increase the content for Sins. Do it in a way that shows everyone can win. It doesn't need to be the mods vs the devs, in reality, it would seem to be much better to work with them as a team. They have commitments and priorities and it's up to you to show that a modding is not at the bottom of those.

Mod 1 adds in some content and makes some changes to the military part of the game. Mod 2 adds in everything else. Mod 3 has no information at all, so use that to your advantage. That means nothing is set in stone yet and you could, politely, convince them that the third installment would be best done as a Modders expansion.