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EvilleJedi
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Reply #1601 April 10, 2011 5:34:21 PM
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Oh that's what you meant. Ok
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Reply #1602 April 10, 2011 6:48:59 PM
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     When I alt/ to see phase lanes and planet names I get a real slow down even early game. Worse than any other version of Sins/mods.

     I believe it's all the icons that show up with the alt press, Nova has created a wonderful world but I'm afraid all the extra roids and the icons/health meters that go with them are the cause. Anyway to make roids not show health when alt is pressed?

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Reply #1603 April 10, 2011 7:03:32 PM
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I've fixed that. The new rendering files are 'lighter' on the CPU. It's also the size of the space. It's the Grid Lines that are the issue. The HUGE spaces now caused more grid lines and thus killer slowdowns.

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Reply #1604 April 10, 2011 7:23:12 PM
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So when planets are done this will be included, or you are going to update with this fix alone?

btw..Nova, you need an avatar. No photo for all your work?

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Reply #1605 April 10, 2011 7:59:30 PM
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Once the next version of Nova's mod is done it will be slapped into the beta. Unless of course Nova changes his mind.

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Reply #1606 April 10, 2011 8:13:31 PM
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Well... TBH it IS done... I'm just deciding if I want to put in stars as planets as well... Oh and I need to remake the random groupings....

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Reply #1607 April 19, 2011 5:00:36 PM
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I’m sure these improvements are already in the works but if not here are some suggestions.


-Replace the Cruiser class ISDs with Victory Star Destroyers.

-Make the Capital Imperial class ISDs larger in scale; nearly double the size, victory star destroyers are around 900 meters (ISDs are large ships, approx 1,600 meters). I noticed that the dreadnaughts are nearly the same size as the ISD and those are supposed to be 600 meters in length, anyways I'm sure you guys get the idea

-Make the Victory SD II and Imperial SD II a researchable upgraded ship. From all lore that I have encountered, Imperial class star destroyer II’s are always better ships (not just a ship with alternate stats as seen in this mod).

-Add a criminal faction might be nice (ex. The hutts, zaan etc. or something comparable) and maybe another one from the extended star wars universe.

-Maybe some star wars models for the laser emplacements/missile platforms

-Buildable space colonies like the ones seen in X-Wing alliance that add logistical support to the planetary system.

Otherwise I think the mod is superb even without adding anything else, I’d give it an “A”, nice work!

 

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Reply #1608 April 21, 2011 1:56:32 PM
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- I think the loss of the Victory was to differentiate from the Republic faction. I think there are some tweaks to the lineup of cruisers so that they are better balanced.

- Scale won't be changed. Trust me, we can discuss all day what is or isn't canon. But unless someone gets Eville to redo them (and he's said he won't), it is sized as intended.

- Research is slowly being worked on - but it isn't a priority. I know Lavo and NovaCameron have some stuff done in that area

- No. This is focused on mass-produced military ships. I know Eville is trying to avoid "hero" and unique units. Consortium is largely overpowered (and my own personal opinion is that their designs are almost non-canon), there aren't too many Hutt sources. I don't think this mod needs another race, as we're already extended it beyond the scope of the Sins engine with the New Republic and Vong factions.

- Starbases still have to be worked on. Expectations are for additional defensive units as well.

Don't take any of this the wrong way - I do appreciate the suggestions. If you really want to get involved, you should check out the beta test version. Lavo, NovaCameron, and sloosecannon are making lots of enhancements. So if you want your feedback included, now is never too late.

Cheers!

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Reply #1609 April 21, 2011 8:29:16 PM
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I'll just note, about the space colonies, that a logistics slot booster as described by your post simply isn't possible, due to engine restrictions. The ISD I and II are considerably superior to the VSD II, due to stronger shielding, three times as many fighters, and the heaviest laser armament of all the cruisers in the game; with only the Nebula SD nearly matching the ISD I. Starbases are indeed being worked on, and are currently ingame in an alpha state.

 

Feedback is also always welcomed, I enjoy seeing feedback on the beta, it makes a big influence on the changes I do.

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Reply #1610 April 21, 2011 11:36:50 PM
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Quoting Lavo_2,
reply 1609
I'll just note, about the space colonies, that a logistics slot booster as described by your post simply isn't possible, due to engine restrictions. The ISD I and II are considerably superior to the VSD II, due to stronger shielding, three times as many fighters, and the heaviest laser armament of all the cruisers in the game; with only the Nebula SD nearly matching the ISD I. Starbases are indeed being worked on, and are currently ingame in an alpha state.

 

Feedback is also always welcomed, I enjoy seeing feedback on the beta, it makes a big influence on the changes I do.

I'd like to note that the Nebula-class SD was actually intended to be a match for the Imperial-II class.

Other than that, I have a question:

Is the Eta-2 Actis interceptor implemented yet?

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Reply #1611 April 22, 2011 12:27:40 AM
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Quoting Whiskey144,
reply 1610

I'd like to note that the Nebula-class SD was actually intended to be a match for the Imperial-II class.

Other than that, I have a question:

Is the Eta-2 Actis interceptor implemented yet?

With all due respect, I know this and have actually had to tell this to people multiple times when they've cried that teh ISD > all. In terms of cruisers the Nebula SD has superior shielding, and abilities, making it able to take on ISDs 1 on 1.

As for the Eta-2, there's no model for it, though technically the Jedi Squadron, which is who would use them obviously, is in and has been for awhile.

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Reply #1612 April 22, 2011 12:41:01 AM
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Quoting Lavo_2,
reply 1611
With all due respect, I know this and have actually had to tell this to people multiple times when they've cried that teh ISD > all. In terms of cruisers the Nebula SD has superior shielding, and abilities, making it able to take on ISDs 1 on 1.

As for the Eta-2, there's no model for it, though technically the Jedi Squadron, which is who would use them obviously, is in and has been for awhile.

In that case, I apologize for repeating something you already know. It was an honest mistake, and in hindsight probably better left unsaid; after all, you guys are the ones making the SW mod. Not me.

Anyways, with the Jedi Squadron, the only issue I take with it is the placeholder ARC-170 model. The ARC-170 is one of my favorite SW fighters, but IMO it seems much to beefy to be a fighter used by Jedi. I also happen to really like the Eta-2 model, so there's that motivation for me.

But meh, I can simply hope that the Eta-2 will end up in, and satisfy myself with droid swarms for the time being.

As an aside, is there any planned release date for the next public version, or is it a case of "when it's done"? Not that I take issue with either one, mind.

edited for clarity

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Reply #1613 April 22, 2011 3:47:16 AM
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The Nebula-class Star Destroyer is probably the best general deployment Star Destroyer design ever produced, and therefore one of if not my most favorite Star Destroyer class of all time.

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Reply #1614 April 22, 2011 3:49:27 AM
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Quoting Whiskey144,
reply 1612

In that case, I apologize for repeating something you already know. It was an honest mistake, and in hindsight probably better left unsaid; after all, you guys are the ones making the SW mod. Not me.

Nah, it's fine, just feel like niping it in the bud before someone repeats ISD > ALL!!!!1111!! and lead to a few massive walls-of-text. Admittedly I'm not uber knowledgeable on SW, though I do know what can set off fanboys/girls rather easily.

Anyways, with the Jedi Squadron, the only issue I take with it is the placeholder ARC-170 model. The ARC-170 is one of my favorite SW fighters, but IMO it seems much to beefy to be a fighter used by Jedi. I also happen to really like the Eta-2 model, so there's that motivation for me.

To be quite honest I totally agree with you. SoGE lacks some key models... For one reason or another. It's a problem.

As an aside, is there any planned release date for the next public version, or is it a case of "when it's done"? Not that I take issue with either one, mind.

It's a "when it's done" release. When it will actually be released is anybody's guess. One thing is certain however, SoGE will not fall off on the wayside, unlike projects such as IA2, as there is always a playable version of the latest release out.


Edit: To respond to Zeta, it's my favorite of the SD line as well. The design is rather sleek and effective, all while retaining it's heavy guns and armament.

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Reply #1615 April 22, 2011 4:03:50 AM
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Indeed, it is a real shame that the Nebula-class SD and the New Class in general have largely been ignored by the EU.

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Reply #1616 April 22, 2011 4:34:16 PM
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Agreed. Though thankfully, this is not the case at all in SoGE. On that note the Vong have been rehauled, in the beta, so they'll be quite a bit more vicious now.

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Reply #1617 April 23, 2011 10:41:50 PM
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Something I've been wondering, but is the exclusion of starbases from SoGE a design choice or was it circumstantial?

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Reply #1618 April 23, 2011 11:30:20 PM
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Quoting Sobekeus,
reply 1617
Something I've been wondering, but is the exclusion of starbases from SoGE a design choice or was it circumstantial?

This is circumstantial; as mentioned earlier, the beta contains starbases (currently in an alpha state).

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Reply #1619 April 24, 2011 2:22:34 AM
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Awesome to hear. It was mainly due to lack of models and textures at release I assume?

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Reply #1620 April 24, 2011 4:07:56 AM
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Quoting Sobekeus,
reply 1619
Awesome to hear. It was mainly due to lack of models and textures at release I assume?

In all honesty, I couldn't tell you. I didn't even own Sins when 1.0E was released; never mind being part of the beta or staff.

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Reply #1621 April 24, 2011 11:18:44 AM
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Quoting Sobekeus,
reply 1619
Awesome to hear. It was mainly due to lack of models and textures at release I assume?

Yes. Lack of time really ... the mod was essentially rewritten from scratch in 0.90 to fix all the minidump issues.

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Reply #1622 April 24, 2011 2:19:05 PM
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Don't take any of this the wrong way - I do appreciate the suggestions. If you really want to get involved, you should check out the beta test version. Lavo, NovaCameron, and sloosecannon are making lots of enhancements. So if you want your feedback included, now is never too late.

I would love to get involved with the beta testing but I'm currently too busy; but maybe in June. I have a few other questions.

-Will there be other super-capital ships like the eclipse/sovereign/calamari?

-I think I saw models for these somewhere on the rebellion forum but will there be mssile boats? tie advanced/defenders? for rebels E-wings (interceptor) and K-wings (heavy bomber comparable to missile boat. Not as sure about the CIS and Republic. 

-Cloaking device technology? Maybe some kind of scout ship that is designed for spying/cloaking

 

Again these are not vital but would be interesting to see in the game.

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Reply #1623 April 25, 2011 10:57:41 AM
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New ships aren't being planned yet, but certainly possible. The NR and Vong give the mod more ships to consider in the NJO era, so possibly you'll see new additions to other races. With the super-capitals, we'll see ... maybe when the Rebellion expansion comes out, these could be Titan-class ships

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Reply #1624 April 26, 2011 10:52:37 PM
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Maybe a stupid question and probably asked earlier, but did not feel like reading through 65 pages to get the answer. Do you HAVE to have Entrenchment to play this Star Wars MOD?

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Reply #1625 April 26, 2011 11:26:18 PM
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Quoting COL-Beckwith_SFOD,
reply 1624
Maybe a stupid question and probably asked earlier, but did not feel like reading through 65 pages to get the answer. Do you HAVE to have Entrenchment to play this Star Wars MOD?

The thread title should have clued you in that, yes, you do need the Entrenchment expansion to play Star Wars Sins of a Galactice Empire.

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