What little bit I know about gundam, I thought it was mostly about the sobile suits. now you want to relegate them to the lowest part of this game. Then again, I've just been playing the demo...

Whats wrong for saying i want this kind of mod ? if you don't like it don't fracken read it.

Like i said i was looking for such a mod and don't even see a thread so i made one , and gave some ideas , thats all. oh and here comes the mod tools argument.....you know ideals can always be changed accordingly i didn't say it cant be , being such skeptical like you guys is really a bad influence to people who are serious about the idea.

Like i said im not likely to start the mod but yeah its "omg I have an idea for a mod" thread , but hey a lot of these threads "caused" some mods to show up , isn't that the case ? so you know what ? don't bother replying non constructive responses and giving out words that are insulting to others.

i could help with this

i'm a HUGE fan of Gundam and from the looks of it most of the work here would be in skinning and modeling (and maybe some sound effects)

unfortunately i can do nether

BUT

I can offer help with unit decision making process (IE what unit in game would fit best as what unit from the series and what it looks like) and layout of the maps (whats a colony and whats a derelict scrap heap and what goes where) maybe sound effects (music, weapon fire and what the units say when you select them)and search the internet for pics to work off of i mean what good are a bunch of modelers and skinners if no one knows what to tell them to make or what it looks like right?

so if anyone wants to get this rolling, ill help

Could be a good mod, tho i think it's worth pointing out, i don't think you could have the 2 stage faction plan for a game, i mean as far as i know you can just jump ship and change faction midgame ( even in scripted events) as that could effect the entirity of all your previous units and structures. But if you wanted that maybe you could instead make an extensive reserach tree? that is so damn expensive it would take mostly specialisation in one area of faction units its ineffiecent to resarch to get tohers.

Like say mid down the tech tree have it branch to single tech, then fork out and have that one tech as prerequisite for all those, and have several of these for all the new faction things you want to include?

Ah right, read it as like switiching (like say Age of empires upgrading to another era and it changes your units and buildings models etc)

But where your tech tree advances, you can write your own one for your mod, and say you have your basic faction tecs for say up to 5 military stations (if you keep them mind you) then the you say have 3 different new techs with no prerequisites (not needing anything before them basically), that will then still on same page, but span more research for your tree, say units that would be the new faction specific or anything, and they all require the first research to do it,

And if you wanted to you could make it so each starting point is really expensive to limit people from say researching all the tree and getting every unit, i mean long games would be hard to stop this, i mean im unsure if you can limit the research to be able to research one or the other, but it's an idea of how to get the range of units in. However this could limit your original units, due the to hard coded limit on number of ships (until/if dev's fix it anyway)

Not sure how do-able alot of that is atm, especially with the current tools, your probably best waiting and see if the dev's release more tools, and/or fix the hardcoded ship limit, because i'm not sure how easy it is to put in new factories at the moment either.

I mean a change in the hard coded limit would make putting in plenty of ships easier and means you can play about with what ships going where etc.

i think we should just stick to the 0079 stuff, when you think about it doing something in one era makes things A HOLE LOT EASER instead of doing everything and relying on elements of the game that don't even exist yet and say "oh someone will make this down the road".

lets be realistic here

if any of us want this mod to get off the ground we need to work with what we have

This is an awesome idea, I could possibly help out a bit, since I was into the series alot. But I understand the whole ship layouts! That would be awesome, capital ships like the White Horse and such... Very nice idea.

why would we need transforming ships ? its not transformers


Thanks for you guys constructive input , id keep in mind but yes we will still need to see what tools and limits this game provides

Well said from what Goon165 said, mixing 0079 or the whole U.C series with seed / destiny / even 00(although better than the previous two) is.....................a very bad idea...........especially for balancing with the U.C series and the hard part of having transforming models in game

(lets face it the new gundams like seed have a crappy story layout and the whole story isn't even much of a military history.....more like watching "300" but in gundam style......personally i hate those series)

PS: ok guys i think i have a easier solution for the time era to advance and making it story like

1) remember techs require certain buildings ?

2) time era one while having just Zeon and earth Feds , two buildings will be built

jubro HQ (its a space port where you can make all ships and MS in the South America space sector , see my first post fro further idea about this) , Zeon royal palace in side 3

These buildings exists from start of game

Once , you own the sectors (SA space sector and side 3) for detail you need to kill these two buildings to conquer the sector , while after you have these sectors you need to build the new buildings (not the same as mentioned above) ,

if your the Feds building in sides 3 (meant you won ) the new building is called Zeon republic senate (since according to time line the surrender of zeon kept its independence in a democratic way)

, and if your Zeon and your building in SA space sector it will be called Zeon Earth HQ

if you want to know how to make these buildigns exclusive to these two places its easy
make these two sectors "planet type" (literally) the same and ONLY these type of planet types can build these buildings (while preset vaule for these buildings will be done like Zeon can only build zeon HQ Feds only Zeon senate) ,


Heres comes the tricky part in your tech tree all the oo79 techs are like normal techs where some need others to be researched first to be researched . while ONLY if you researched all those techs AND you own the new buildings (Zeon need to have the Earth HQ , Feds need Zeon senate) , the Tech 0083 will be unblocked (since these techs according to faction will need you to have the buildings mentioned here) , then your tech can move on and research the rest of the tec tree

So the tech tree would look like 0079 (techs blah blah) - 0083 event - 0083 (techs blah blah)

PS: im also thinking another tech where yo go post 0083 where Aeug and Titians show up (but only early form where they still dont have transforming MS)

Also if you advance to 0083 you will get some of the other factions techs (Feds gets some from Zeon like zakus while Zeon will have some Gm's etc , since they won the war by achieving this) , vice versa to any new factions that you won

And once that tech is researched , story events that will take the story to 0083 will occur and new factions will pop up (although taking SA sector and Side 3 will trigger story too but those are just movies saying you beat the hack out of your arc enemy and no actual effect in game)


As for other new factions ,

OK so how does this all sound ? i think its more practical and it sounds possible ?

Why not just make this a micro add on?
You know carriers? They can choose fighter or bomber now right?
Well, add 3 more choices. Let carriers make gundams, and put carriers lower in tech tree. Then add a bigger carrier with access to really powerful gundams a little higher on the tech tree. Then just use in game races for all the other units.

All gundams are added as strike craft additions to the current gameplay.

Gundams are slower than fighters, but have the best sustained DPS in the game. Deadly vs ships. Make scouts, flaks, and fighters, counter gundams.

I don't think the guntank can fly in space. 

Hey, I found a gundam mod from HW2, if we can get them to give us the textures and such it should make it a heck of a lot easier for any modder.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r4pDa8O9kII&feature=related