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[MOD] New Backgrounds & TEC Rail Guns--UPDATED v1.1

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March 23, 2008 1:32:35 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

Hello,

Well where to start, I guess you could say that there were several things I would have liked to see changed up a bit & so I set out to do so.  After doing so I thought others might enjoy playing with it, so I figured I would go ahead and release them...

 

Rail Guns-

Well I wasnt to fond of the stock TEC weapon scheme & wanted something closer to the rail guns seen in Stargate Atlantis.  So after a few small tweaks this is what I came up with....

 

 

I hope you all enjoy them as much as I have.  If not, hey thats ok... =D

New BackGrounds-

These were some new back grounds I was tinkering with & I thought some of them turned out alright...lol

 

 

Again, I hope you enjoy them... or not.... lol

Enhanced Original Backgrounds-

These are the games stock backgrounds that I messed aroound with.  Again, download at your discretion...

 

Finally, I'd like to say, apart from saying again that I hope you all enjoy this as much as I have, is that if there is any material present within this mod that I have used or included unwittingly & should have gotten permission for, I apologize greatly & would be happy to credit you or do whatever is necessary to correct the situation.  That being said, here are the links:

Rail Guns:

http://files.filefront.com/RailGunszip/;9884166;/fileinfo.html

Enhanced Original Backgrounds:

http://files.filefront.com/EnhancedOriginalBackgrounszip/;9849082;/fileinfo.html

New Backgrounds:

http://files.filefront.com/NewSinsBackgroundszip/;9849080;/fileinfo.html

 

[EDIT]- This was made for the new 1.03 patched version.  Also, I am not sure if its actually required, but it would be best if you had Bailknights 'Enhancement Mod' installed prior to installing the rail guns.

 

Up-Date v1.1(changes):

 

New “light rail guns” or Mark 1’s (yellow)

New “heavy rail guns” or Mark 2’s (blue/white)

Shorter bursts & slightly increased damage.

 

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Reply #1 March 23, 2008 1:42:24 AM
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Looks interesting. Downloading now.
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Reply #2 March 23, 2008 1:49:29 AM
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Those backgrounds look real nice..
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Reply #3 March 23, 2008 1:55:57 AM
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Wow. Especially the planet bombing looks awesome. Great work!

I'd love to see some of these mods making it into the game in a patch.
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Reply #4 March 23, 2008 1:57:07 AM
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lol he is not firing at the planet, there is a small frigate there. Sorry... =P
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Reply #5 March 23, 2008 1:24:22 PM
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Has anyone actually gotten to try the rail guns in game yet? I would love a little feedback as to how well its working for everyone else.

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Reply #6 March 23, 2008 3:41:13 PM
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Jupp, i have. I'm still experimenting with it. I'll let you know when come to an conclusion.
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Reply #7 March 23, 2008 5:59:54 PM
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OK, as English is not my native language i keep it short.
The new fireanimations look really nice, but they are used a little too much.
In my opinion the light and medium Laser should stay as they originally are. The heavy laser looks cool, but it should stay red/orange/yellow. That way the really heavy Weapons look really heavy too (As the Kol is the only one using the heavy laser you could consider to replaceing the main cannon of the Dunov with it too)
The autocannons are supposed to look like the ones in Stargate? Then the bloom-bubble at the top of a projectile is a little to big. A little smaller would be perfect.
Next issue, the shooting-rows are too dense. it looks like a glowing space-snake reaching from one ship to another. I increased the salvo-burstDelay from 0,06 to 0,095 and it looks just fine. I also changed the burstCount from 16 to 20. That way theres much more "fire" in space...
I don't like the color of the projectiles too much. The ones in stargate are more yellow-white(SG-1) or purple-white(Atlantis). I personally would like that more than the current cyan(or is it called turquoise?)ones. Dont care which one.
Here i found an example at youtube: WWW Link

The new beam-weapon color is fine, but i liked the orange one too.
Overall i think you made a great job, but the current version is removing to much of the differences between the weapon systems.
If you'll make these slight changes i would love to add your Railgun mod to my current 'real capital ships'-mod if you don't mind.(Of course i give credit to those who deserve some )

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Reply #8 March 23, 2008 7:25:47 PM
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I would be happy to make the lighter rail guns yellow (like for the flak frigate) but there are a couple things we will have to agree to disagree on.... lol

I personally like the burst counts and rate of fire (Bright Snake) the way they are but I am sure its really nice your way too. I also have to disagree on the cyaan colored rounds. I wanted the weapons to be like Stargate Atlantis as I said in the first post but not exactly like them. Hence cyan instead of purple white.

I do however agree that there should be more diversity in the weapons fire, if I can, I will create a lighter rail gun that is yellow & try and return some of the pirate weapons to their originals. I will release the next update with these changes as soon as possible.

Thank you however for you very well stated review & compliments. I look forward to doing whatever I can to improve the mod for those who enjoy it.

You also have my full permission to use the & change the mod for your own.

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Reply #9 March 24, 2008 12:07:25 PM
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Before I install, could you give a more complete explanation of what, exactly, your "RailGun" mod does? Is it just a graphical change, or are gameplay mechanics altered as well?
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Reply #10 March 24, 2008 12:28:30 PM
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Well,

Both...lol, the Rail guns is just a graphic's change, but since more ships are ordered to use them, it alters gameplay in the sense that autocannon research will do you more good the lazer tec research. However, I am working on an update that will make alot of the ships revert back to their original weapons or to use lighter versions of the current rail gun so that there is more variety & so lazer research will have value again.

Essentially though, it is just a graphics change meant to make the weapons similar to the rail gun weapons shown on Stargate Atlantis & SG-1.

Hope you like it, & keep your eyes open for the up date!
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Reply #11 March 24, 2008 3:35:27 PM
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could you upload the txt Versions of the particle files too please? As we agreed to disagree i'll have to change the color myself
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Reply #12 March 24, 2008 4:42:38 PM
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could you upload the txt Versions of the particle files too please? As we agreed to disagree i'll have to change the color myself
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Reply #13 March 24, 2008 6:20:53 PM
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No need, next update has blue/white Mark 2 rail guns (Atlantis) and yellow mark 1 rail guns(Prometheus & SG-1) along with short burst counts. Will be able to release it very soon, today mabey tomarrow, but soon.

Also, I wanted to point out, the link you gave was to the Siege episode of Stargate Atlantis & if you watch that episode the commander specifically instructs the soldiers to fire "Short steady bursts" in many other episodes where the prometheus is fighting Wraith hive ships, the prometheus fires a straight steady chain of fire at the hives. Despite that, I went ahead & changed the burst counts anyway as well as providing the blue/white & yellow rail slugs.

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Reply #14 March 24, 2008 7:19:50 PM
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interesting, checking out t minus...crap downloads done l8r!
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Reply #15 March 25, 2008 1:32:39 AM
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Jay, we agree at last
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Reply #16 March 25, 2008 12:24:03 PM
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first of great work cobbs, but do you know if this would work with the mars effect mod or 1.02? any help would be great
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Reply #17 March 25, 2008 1:33:47 PM
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1.03 Mods are mostly incompatible with the 1.02 game version. Weird bug like invulnerable pirates appear sometimes.

Admiral Cobbs i successfully ripped your Railguns apart
If you wanna take a look on the slaughter:
WWW Link
(Unfinished unbalanced Version so don't bother me with undefeatable fleets )
Btw, i used your Lasers as heavy plasma for the advent. The radiance lools pretty cool.
Maybe you could think about the green banana throwing Vasari
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Reply #18 March 25, 2008 1:41:12 PM
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is this mod just a replace files type or does it need to be enabled from the mod folder?
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Reply #19 March 25, 2008 1:43:40 PM
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@ Milk McLane

It will & wont work with Mars Effect, since my mod replaces the ships in game info, the Mars Effect changes will be overwritten. But the other changes the Mars Effect makes, like for the pirate raids & such should be un-affected. As for 1.02, I am not sure, give it a whirl & let us know..

@ Grottenholm

The link you provided doesn't seem to lead to anything. At any rate, I am happy you got what you wanted out of the rail guns.   
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Reply #20 March 25, 2008 1:45:51 PM
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@ Milk Mclane

If you have a mod enabled at all, it would go into those folders. If not, I believe it can be installed right into the main directory. But MAKE BACK-UP'S!!! lol Can never be to careful right...
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Reply #21 March 25, 2008 1:48:01 PM
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http://d3.myfreefilehosting.com/d1/Echte%20SchlachtschiffeBETA1.03.zip
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Reply #22 March 25, 2008 6:16:48 PM
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tried the new backgrounds thats a very good effort to make backgrounds but its not my
taste i like realistic backgrounds (real nebulas) Also u might want to check wich
format u save your backgrounds they are about 22 TIMES the size of what they should be
that a bit of overkill...keep up the good work..
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