No BG reference here, Boo would not like it:)



I think it's Omnius and Erasmus from the Dune Prequels.

Whatever it is I'd have to stack a claim to it being robotic or that it's a sentient being that sends its robotic army to chase the Vasari. Kinda something like they don't care if the robots win just keep the Vas busy so they can't regroup and return.



This game needs a story or at least the Galaxy Forge needs an ability that players could make story driven maps like they could in WCIII.



Great game by the way. I'm playing a 2 player game as the TEC against the Vas and about 8 pirate planets and I have my hands full:) I have my little corner of the solar system set up I just need to figure out where I'm heading.

Im thinking its something along the lines of the Seraphim from Supreme Commander:

"According to the intro movie, an experimental mobile weapon's lab activated something (looked like a phase gate) 10,000 years ago. So the Vasari have been running for almost ten centuries.

It's probably that this race is either a civilization that exists within phase space, or exits on the other side of the galaxy, or universe. It seems like to me, that since the Vasari have had no contact with the enemy other than to drive them insane, that they aren't your typical race."

The Seraphim lived only in the "Quantum Realm", essentially a parallel universe. QAI a supercomputer, made with Seraphim tech, went rogue and caused a tear in the fabric of the universe to let them through.

They originally had a single colonized world in our universe but this was either destroyed by a plague brought by one of the races in the game, or a xenocidal commander nuking the capitol.

This caused this seemingly peaceful race to declare war on everything in our universe, which resulted in the "Forged Alliance", expansion; this game focussed on the war between the three races from the orignal game, and the Seraphim.

The Seraphim were supposed to be unbelievably powerful, almost immediately crippling all three races; this included destroying Earth and killing the president but in game, of course, they were a balanced race.

Does that sound possible then ?

The Vasari found a race with whom they hadn't previously made contact and decided they were'nt worth enslaving, subsequently destroying them; when they activated their "experimental mobile weapons lab", they created a rift to the alternate universe in which that race exists.

A huge armada launched by this race went on to destroy/capture all of the Vasari planets, as they are indestructable in cutscenes and backstory.

The expansion pack for Sins will force the original races into an alliance against the new race, probably because they blow up a planet when powerful members of the TEC are there.

Check maths.


I'm not sure we'll ever see them, they exist almost purely as the plot justification for the Vasari race. The background fluff has no relevance to the game at all.

However; if a background explenation for everything does exist...

It's the same race that left all the phase inhibiters and scattered artifacts everywhere. Think like the Shivans from Freespace 2.

I've already said this. It's there wives. But I'VE GOT A NEW THEORY!!!! The female half the species entered in the Red rage. (he he Blood Angels pun.)And never went back to normal. Thus hunting there male counterparts to the ends of the universe to nag them to death.

Dread Lords.

I would love to see a tie-in with Galactic Civilizations here.

OK, kramer222, here is my take on what the Vasari are running from. To understand what they are running from you you just have to look at the into movie. In the intro, the Vasri are work at a "experimental phase lab". The project may of been, any thing form faster phase jumps, to allowing fighters to jump, or a power source form phase it self. What ever it, there was an run away chain reaction in which it produced a energy wave that destroys everthing it meets it. That is why the expansion rate was higher then thaty of the Dark Fleet, as the enegy wave destroyes every thing. When they jumped the Dark Fleet in to destroy there new "enemy" the wave destroyed all but one ship. Bullet can stop troops, but not a nuke. And just like a nuke there is radiation, that can effect the mine. This is why the crew was so "mad with fear". So what they are running from, is run away "nuke" of there there own making.

That was what I am saying Khyron Shia, but it is with phase space or something like that

It ok, (to add to what you siad) or the speed, at which it can win and keep on moving.

Eh wouldnt someone notice any one of the above interstellar phenomena occuring? Giant hole in space,the destruction of the universe,or a super energy blast? No no read teh manuel they mention SOMETHING chasing them. It's one of there ships that mentions something about it.

The Shadows.

also, hardon colliders (it might be hadrin or something...w/e)

Illidian.

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