yah, "forge tools will make you waffles!" an unofficial quote that isnt from blair himself!

Well, I've written mod tools for many games and so far very rarely do the dev tools compete with the community tools quality wise a few months after release. I'm not saying it's the case here but it's a good reason to not just give up on making tools.

Where I currently work at, the tools are just good enough to get the data in the game, that's it. User friendliness is not too high on the list. I've seen quite a couple of games where the devs just released their in house tools which just didn't get used because of their cryptic nature. For example, Gal Civ 1had a tool called mutil to import your own sprites in the game. There was *one* ship made with it I think in the history of galciv. It was the red ships for a race which I forget. When I released the editing suite that was super easy to use, you saw a flood of new ships coming in.

I'm not saying that their tools are going to be hard to use / bad tools. I'd be a fool to judge before even seeing them. I'm just saying statistically speaking chances are on the community side .

And I've seen some where the released tools (quite simply put) were inferior to the "in house" tools for no good reason... So while making good tools is a good idea, at least map editing is doable without a tool, and not all that difficult.

That won't be the case with Forge, from what I've heard

i cant find where to download this editor i clicked the link but all i see are maps...anyone got a direct link to it..or a name or something cuz i cant find it

couldent find it but i found it on google so its ok,made a map but when i load it says victory/defeat once it loads..i put it in one of the galaxy folders and it said that then went threw the other path to the other folder and it says same thing each time i load it...am i missing something?? anyone wanna tell me where the right place to put it is thanks

i did still say it this sucks lol