we need a juggernaut type of ship, long ship with loads of weapons on the sides, 48% on both sides and one big beam in front with small railguns, piew piew

also it would look so cool to have a long ship with turrets bursting in waves, the point is to have less big guns, more small guns = same damage but more ammo on the air

same idea like on old sail warship battles, 2 big warships side by side and let the lead fly until one or both ships sunk/explode.

and the big ships turn too fast atm, should make them more clumsy.

just my 2c

Yeah, thats exactly my feelings on the subject. We need some kind of Mega battleship, loaded with weapons (weak ones, of course for balance) on its broad sides and some awesome abilities along with about 4-5 fighter sqadrons for backup. In addition that kind of ship should be about twice as big as the "standard Battle ship." Yeah i also agree the big ships do turn too fast to be realistic. Then we have the weapon ranges... grrr.

EDIT: we arent saying the TEC ships should be the best.. i just want there big ones to be Better ! not neccicarily gameplay wise but at least in the visuals and general feeling you get when using them. Besides, this is just some beta 2 work, im not actualy going to make this a full fledged mod ! i just want to spice up my beta 2 experience and am looking for some advice on the subject by my clearly more talented peers.

I thought it was The Advent that could make you fight amongst yourselves? while the Vasari has fewer numbers but stronger ships?

so the TEC should be strong in numbers, an all round race, but their ships shouldn't be over or too strong

the Vasari should have the strongest ships in the game, and weapons, but have fewer ships so tactics will be needed to take out a fleet double in size compared to yours

The Advent should have the weakest ships but the strongest abilities

yeah I realise I made a mistake when I said that the TEC should be the weakest of the three, but that is still no reason to have any TEC ships super strong, their ships still need to be all rounders, but I guess we will see when we have access to the other two races,

yeah its damn annoying not able to edit your posts, hate this forum

I think we really should consider ship balancing and if cap ships need a buff only when we have access to the other two races, I think its pointless at this stage only to find they maybe reduced not increased, otherwise we are going to get ahead of ourselves, but if and when we see the other races in action then this topic should be discussed, pointless at the mo,

and thats the bummer, and something I really hate

It's easy enough. Grab my mod for a look, or read through Silent's stickied (sort-of) tutorial.

The guns would nearly be only for anti fighter combat, unless of course you like having your ships side by side with enemies. the guns would just be there to help out the carrier's defence when its fighters are out on the offensive.

Also, thanks for responding guys !

Im going to change this to a full fledged mod.

After seeing what is possible and what is not, i feel prepared to make a real mod for this when the tools finaly come out.

What i plan to do:

Add PDF (point defence guns) to every capital ship (TEC at first then the other races) Increase fighter holds and squads Beef up hitpoints and armour while creating this "armoured behemoth" element with the Captital ships.

Each side will have 1 (and one only) new ship

TEC: Dreadnaught Class - A ship armed to the teeth with weapons armour missiles and more, easily matches the power of all the TEC capital ships. Best taken down with long ranged missiles, truely a beast to fighters and light frigates. Very slow.

The other race's ships will be added in when new ideas come in for them, comments are much apreciated, i am currently working on a rough v1.0 for beta2 and will continue it on to beta3 should it be released.

Universal changes :
Cap. ship weapons fire faster
Larger cannons/heavy lazers fire less frequently but are more powerful.
Fighters become more of a Tier 1 force, providing basic patrol and guard duties as well as large scale deployment of many hundreds of fighters in larger battles. Note: health and weapons will be balanced to make this fair.
Pirates will be able to get a battlecruiser into their fleets however earlier on you wont need to woory about these (thats still a WIP by the way).

This mod will be open to the public, if you see something you want to throw on once the first beta after it is ready by all means do so, so long as credits are given.

whoa, by battlecruiser did you mean the kol battleship? the marza dreadnaught or the Dunov battlecruiser?

the Dunov is not intended to have a lot of weaponry, its a support ship
the kol doesnt have a lot of weaponry because its designed to hit hard (and it does) if you want the ship you described (already have a similar description in my advice column) it would need to be a brand new ship.

additonally the carrier really shouldnt be upgraded, level 10 with 6 sets of bombers can be a massive battle-swinger, any stronger and its overpowering and threatening game balance.

my first post here

look

all of us (no really everyone) are in agreegament with a ( super class - Battleship )

look these post: Flagship, how about a super capital ship, a ship a idea.

sorry bad english

Well, whenever you're up to getting this thing started, I'm interested in working with you on this. Sounds like a lot of fun.

Possibly, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be an enjoyable part.